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re: Was Smart's impactfulness at Bama undersold?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:51 am to GlossuRabban
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:51 am to GlossuRabban
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And sometimes a state produces more prospects than another.
Contributing factor, but that had not helped UGA out recruit Alabama in the 7 years prior.
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There are also other relationships in play to consider. I don't say that to undersell what Kirby did in recruiting last year, I just don't know that it will be the norm from now on.
Agreed. It's hard to say that it will be the norm. But, I think it is safe to say recruiting better than Georgia has ever recruited is becoming the norm. Last year. This year. And we already have commits or lead for a lot of top recruits for the 2020 class.
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
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We'll have the #1 or #2 class this year, because Saban doesn't mess the same thing up twice.
I am thinking you will go back to #1 this year. It will be close, though.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:01 am to Paul B Ammer
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First off Kirby had a lot of scholarships to offer thanks to the departure of Richt.
Limit is 25. We offered 26. That's a huge difference? I hear Saban is offering between 26 and 28 this year. What does that say?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:25 am to tattoo
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Even though JP was a better DC and recruiter,
I'm not sure that he is a better recruiter. I mean, he might be, but I don't see Saban giving the recruiting reins to Pruitt to the extent he did Smart.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:00 am to DawgsLife
Smart was a good recruiter on a staff of great recruiters during his time at Bama. He was middle of the pack, but never the best on staff.
Cristobal
Kiffen
Lance Thompson
Pruitt
Those guys were all better. Kirby was somewhere in the 5 to 7 range.
Muschamp was Saban's best recruiter at DC. Pruitt would be second, with Kirby and Steele tied for third.
Cristobal
Kiffen
Lance Thompson
Pruitt
Those guys were all better. Kirby was somewhere in the 5 to 7 range.
Muschamp was Saban's best recruiter at DC. Pruitt would be second, with Kirby and Steele tied for third.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:10 am to BhamDore
hilarious to see the Gumps in here downplaying Kirby as a recruiter and saying that Pruitt is a better DC
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:27 am to dcbl
Pruitt was a better DC his resume proves it. He fielded a National Championship defense at FSU in 2013. Bamas defenses were lit up in 2013 and 2014 when Pruitt was gone. Giving up 40 + pts multiple times. He instantly improved Georgia's defense in 1 year.
When he returned as DC in 2016 The Bama defense was probably the best of all time. Not only did they not give up very many yards or tds they forced a ridiculous amount of turnovers and scored TDS.
The pass rush and QB pressure was amazing under Pruitt and the secondary was a lot better.
Pruitt called a way better defense than Kirby. Under Kirby teams completed a ridiculous amount of 3rd and longs.
Those 3rd and longs became sacks and turnovers under Pruitt.
Pruitt is the only assistant coach Saban was actually visibly mad over losing when he took a promotion at FSU.
He was mad at Lance Thompson once, but that was because he made a lateral move and he went to a rival.
When he returned as DC in 2016 The Bama defense was probably the best of all time. Not only did they not give up very many yards or tds they forced a ridiculous amount of turnovers and scored TDS.
The pass rush and QB pressure was amazing under Pruitt and the secondary was a lot better.
Pruitt called a way better defense than Kirby. Under Kirby teams completed a ridiculous amount of 3rd and longs.
Those 3rd and longs became sacks and turnovers under Pruitt.
Pruitt is the only assistant coach Saban was actually visibly mad over losing when he took a promotion at FSU.
He was mad at Lance Thompson once, but that was because he made a lateral move and he went to a rival.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:12 pm to BhamDore
Pruitt is best in the business at in game adjustments.He don't wait until halftime.Bama had a few coaches in 2016 that didn't recruit.Bama lost a 5* because Dunbar missed an in home visit and then lost his bag with the game plan in it for the Georgia game. He gone
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:09 pm to RedFive
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RedFive
quote:Talking about at Alabama, not UGA.
Was Smart's impactfulness at Bama undersold?
Better DC and recruiter?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:11 pm to DawgsLife
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DawgsLife
quote:He didn't give the reins, if I know what you mean, to either KS or JP. Neither were the RC nor the best recruiter on the staff. I'm not sure what you mean by "giving the recruiting reins".
I'm not sure that he is a better recruiter. I mean, he might be, but I don't see Saban giving the recruiting reins to Pruitt to the extent he did Smart.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:12 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Kirby locked down Georgia, but so did Richt
Richt did the opposite. Losing too many big time in state guys ended up being his undoing.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:41 pm to BhamDore
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He instantly improved Georgia's defense in 1 year.
You do realize that Grantham had about 5 freshmen start the year before on defense.
The year prior was a cluster-frick because Grantham didn't rotate players. After the 2012 season, we were already screwed for 2013.
Did the defense improve? Yes. But it was god awful in 2013 because of grantham's undisciplined approach to grooming players (he doesnt. Best players play and the subs don't even get work in blowouts. Grantham wanted shutouts in 2012 and it cost us in 2013)
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:22 pm to BhamDore
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Smart was a good recruiter on a staff of great recruiters during his time at Bama. He was middle of the pack, but never the best on staff.
Might be true, I don't know, but he seems to be doing pretty good right now. Better than the other guys.
Now either he is a very good recruiter, or he surrounds himself with great recruiters. I am good with either one.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:27 pm to BhamDore
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Pruitt was a better DC his resume proves it. He fielded a National Championship defense at FSU in 2013.
He was there for one year. It's not like he recruited or built that defense.
Just read through your post. You might be right, but you seem to place an awful lot of emphasis on results from a single year. He did not recruit the defense at FSU, nor did he recruit the defense at UGA that improved. he took over a pretty young defense that should have imporved.
Look, I am not saying he was not good. I am saying that Kirby is really good, too. He has Georgia playing at a higher level and recruiting at a higher level than ever before.
The big question is if he can keep it up, and avoid complacency among himself, his staff and the players.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:28 pm to Rillo
I'll say yes
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:40 pm to tattoo
Pruitt was never the head coach at UGA, how did you get confused?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:45 pm to tattoo
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He didn't give the reins, if I know what you mean, to either KS or JP. Neither were the RC nor the best recruiter on the staff. I'm not sure what you mean by "giving the recruiting reins".
I have seen some Alabama fans saying that Kirby ran the recruiting while at Alabama. Granted it has been awhile when they said that. Kirby was still at Alabama. But, I figured being Alabama fans they knew what was going on in their own program.
Apparently not.
Either way. I think Kirby and his staff are recruiting and coaching lights out at Georgia. We are quite happy with him.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:45 pm to Rillo
Pretty impressive to say the least.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:53 pm to VADawg
Like who?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:16 pm to dcbl
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downplaying Kirby as a recruiter and saying that Pruitt is a better DC
Kirby was a a good recruiter......but I think Pruitt was a better DC than Kirby.
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