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Was Derrick Thomas a Heisman Finalist?

Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Groundscrew85
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:51 pm
Chase Young has had a great year, but personally don’t think he should be invited to New York. Just wondering if Derrick Thomas was a finalist the season he had 27 sacks even though they weren’t officially recorded which is stupid? As an LSU fan who was a chiefs fan growing up I loved Thomas. Absolute legend and class act
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:55 pm to
I don’t believe so, but he should’ve been. He’s my favorite all time Bama player
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:02 pm to
I think he was like 10th on the list. Chase Young couldn’t sniff DT’s jock. Chase Young sucks compared to DT
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:11 pm to
Other than Charles Woodson
I think Hugh Green was the closest defensive player to winning the Heisman from 1980 To now

ETA: it was actually Te’o

This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:11 pm to
He finished 10th. Defensive players are rarely considered these days, even with more open minded voters. They were completely ignored then.

But 1988 was also the year Barry Sanders won.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:14 pm to
He was probably getting some co-ed pregnant that night.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:15 pm to
how are the real estate prices in Duncan?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:16 pm to
Holy shite. Where have you been man?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:31 pm to
Heisman finalists started in1982 (people getting invited to NY)
here are the defensive players who’ve been invited (where they finished)
2016 Jabril Peppers (5th)
2012 Manti Te’o (2nd)
2011 Honey Badger (5th)
2009 Ndamukong Suh (4th)
1997 Charles Woodson (1st)
1994 Warren Sapp (6th)
1991 Steve Emtman (4th)
1986 Brian Bosworth (4th)
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:32 pm to
banned
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:43 pm to
I think there needs to be more defensive players in the Heisman discussion
Posted by Lestat de Lioncourt
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:39 pm to
27 sacks

Nobody can touch that
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 12:04 am to
quote:

27 sacks

Nobody can touch that



Amazing stat. He also had 7 in a single game against the Seahawks.

Defensive players don't get enough consideration for the Heisman. Young shouldn't beat Burrow, but there have been a number of deserving defensive players who at least deserved to be in New York.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 12:05 am to
51 in 4 years total
Posted by dwariley
Member since Jun 2016
605 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 12:07 am to
He has 44 total tackles.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 12:16 am to
quote:

He has 44 total tackles.


Charles Woodson won it, and he was the 8th leading tackler on his own team.

Not saying Young deserves to win, because he doesn't, but the impact of defensive players is measured a bit differently.

Posted by dwariley
Member since Jun 2016
605 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 12:38 am to
Woods on had an overall imprint on games. He played offense, defense and special teams. He scored on every unit.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23722 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:21 am to
I saw him play against Penn State in Birmingham. They could not block him.

You could not appreciate his speed off the edge unless you saw him live. Just a tremendous player.
Posted by Stunna Tide
Member since Sep 2019
811 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:37 am to
quote:

Chase Young has had a great year, but personally don’t think he should be invited to New York. Just wondering if Derrick Thomas was a finalist the season he had 27 sacks even though they weren’t officially recorded which is stupid? As an LSU fan who was a chiefs fan growing up I loved Thomas. Absolute legend and class act


That's all good and everything but, you can't really compare Thomas to modern players.

Thomas played his NFL career almost completely in the 90's, starting in 1989. His years in the NFL were from 20 to 30 years ago.

Players today are better, stronger, faster, smarter, and hit harder and play stronger than those old dinosaurs.

Derrick Thomas would be a joke in the NFL today. They didn't have good nutrition back then, didn't eat right. They didn't have modern day weight training regimens.

Chase Young is ten times the player Thomas was just because he was born in a more enlightened and advanced era. 300 pound OLinemen are as fast today as Thomas was back then; it's the evolution of the game.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 2:38 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:49 am to
quote:

27 sacks

Nobody can touch that


Terrell Suggs had 24

And DTs "27" includes several half sacks, so the 27 that's thrown out there is a little disingenuous. Still one of the top pass rushing seasons ever, don't get me wrong
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