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re: Vols gonna go from “all sports school” to just “school”? NCAA investigation 2.0

Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14202 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:47 pm to
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No, it isn't. The number of people who don't understand NIL amazes me.



Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3874 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:19 pm to
And there it is. Spyre broke the rules and put Nico on the old LeerJet and closed the deal for UT. Looks like no way out for the Vols on this one. And just when they were starting to get respectable again. This one hurts.
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
3885 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:20 pm to
Spyre can fly him on a jet at a time, idiot. He’s their client. If he happens to visit the UT campus after discussing business at their office, so be it.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
4055 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:32 pm to
Does the transfer have portal open if a team is under investigation?
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
1262 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:45 pm to
Law suits will kill the NCAA. If they can go back retroactively. When they had no rules about NIL. Plus the courts mandated players can be paid. and AIL goes through a third-party which they said six months ago that Tennessee’s NIL was one of the best in the country. Now they change their mind. This is going to be the death of the NCAA because other schools would join the lawsuit. They can go after any university they want if they go retroactive.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135568 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:49 pm to
How do you still cheat when you can openly pay players?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20893 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:55 pm to
So the huge scandal is about a booster using a private jet to fly Nico to Knoxville to discuss a brokered NIL deal per the local folks. This was not a violation in 2023, this was not done at the request of the university, this was not facilitated by the university, and the NCAA has no subpoena power to look into the booster or NIL transactions.

This is a nothing burger y’all. A bunch of smoke and no fire.
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
3885 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:09 pm to
It wasn’t a booster as far we know. Spyre paid for the plane.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13653 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:43 pm to


You may have been joking but you'd be surprised how many don't understand NIL.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6462 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:46 pm to
No sympathy from LSU fans regarding the NCAA’s selective prosecution, but goddamn their AD hit the nail on the head with the whole section on them being intellectually dishonest about NIL.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17750 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:51 pm to
If NCAA proceeds with this they are fcked. The chancellor made the right call here. This is the way.
Posted by bertderouen
Member since Jan 2017
1215 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:52 pm to
And yet Janzen Jackson's crazy arse seems like 100 years ago.

Vols at it again.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45493 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 6:28 pm to
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And yet Janzen Jackson's crazy arse seems like 100 years ago.


Made me wonder what happened to him. He was apparently sentenced to 11 years and one article cites that he'd been in jail since 2013. Well it's now 2024 soooo my guess is that he's either out or will be out soon.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20893 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 6:33 pm to
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TheTideMustRoll


Leave UGA’s illegal street racing scheme out of this.
Posted by MartyMoose09
Florence, AL
Member since Dec 2014
1054 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by SmokeyGirl
Member since Sep 2023
263 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:10 pm to
I appreciate Donde Plowman's response to the NCAA. I like the FU response to them. My question is, where the heck is Greg Sankey in all of this?
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58399 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:18 pm to
Greg ain’t getting in the middle of y’all’s bullshite
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9377 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:21 pm to
The NCAA was bound to try and make an example out of somebody since they have lost basically all power with the current NIL and transfer portal rules
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28092 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:27 pm to
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When they had no rules about NIL


They didn't?

NIL rules published by the NCAA in July
2021:

quote:

Recruiting conversations between an individual or entity that has triggered booster status (“booster/NIL entity”) and a PSA are not permissible.


quote:

Booster/NIL entity may not communicate (e.g., call, text, direct message) with a PSA, a PSA’s family, or others affiliated with the PSA for a recruiting purpose or to encourage the PSA’s enrollment at a particular institution. • An NIL agreement between a PSA and a booster/NIL entity may not be guaranteed or promised contingent on initial or continuing enrollment at a particular institution. • Institutional coaches and staff may not organize, facilitate or arrange a meeting between a booster/NIL entity and a PSA (e.g., provide the individual or entity with a recruiting list or watch list, including the NCAA Transfer Portal). • Institutional coaches and staff may not communicate directly or indirectly with a PSA on behalf of a booster/NIL entity. • NIL agreements must be based on an independent, case-by-case analysis of the value that each athlete brings to an NIL agreement as opposed to providing compensation or incentives for enrollment decisions (e.g., signing a letter of intent or transferring), athletic performance (e.g., points scored, minutes played, winning a contest), achievement (e.g., starting position, award winner) or membership on a team (e.g., being on roster)


Seems pretty cut and dry.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 4:54 am
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2472 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:08 pm to
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Is the NCAA really gonna go on this crusade? Fla St, Florida, and now Tenn. The system is broke. Penalizing teams after the fact is petty.


This.

Sounds like the NCAA moved the goalposts.
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