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re: Vols gonna go from “all sports school” to just “school”? NCAA investigation 2.0

Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Then we're going to wonder who turned in FSU and Florida? I smell Georgia or a combination of Georgia/Alabama


FSU got in trouble with Georgia's Mims, Florida is a rival, and Forde is a Georgia homer. And the Georgia president is all over the NCAA site as leading the NCAA NIL policy. You'd have to be pretty thick to not see where this is coming from.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Florida is a rival, and Forde is a Georgia homer.


Errr... what?

Forde grew up in Colorado, lives in Louisville and went to school at Northwestern before transferring and graduating from Mizzou. He's got zero ties to UGA.

He dislikes Auburn (particularly Bruce Pearl), but he's not a UGA supporter. Not sure where you got that, but it's fiction.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1705 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Errr... what?

Forde grew up in Colorado, lives in Louisville and went to school at Northwestern before transferring and graduating from Mizzou. He's got zero ties to UGA.

He dislikes Auburn (particularly Bruce Pearl), but he's not a UGA supporter. Not sure where you got that, but it's fiction.


His son goes there. He hates Auburn, he hates Tennessee, and if you Google Pat Forde and Georgia you get the opposite. The guy's a homer. And clearly a tool of somebody in the AA.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:26 pm to
Georgia masterminding will be the downfall of the NCAA from existence.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45554 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:18 pm to
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That’s not what is known to have happened. What we know is that Spyre flew Nico out to a meet and greet with a prospective client. The headquarters is in Knoxville and while in town he visited the campus. No prearranged plans, no communication between the athletic department or coaches to Spyre to set it up. Nothing. And since California at the time allowed NIL to prospects then that side was above board, the standard Spyre contract has very specific language regarding the separation of the NIL and any school we know there is no issue there, no laws were broken, no ncaa rules were broken, no NCAA guidance at the time were broken.

Someone (I believe it was Stoops at Kentucky via OL Mincy) thought they had something and fricked up.


NIL collectives are setup like PACs. PACs are quite good at not violating campaign finance laws while shitting all over the spirit of those laws. NIL collectives do the same thing and will get away with it just the same and the reason is that the NCAA declared "follow your state laws on NIL."

Had they set ground rules, it would be a different story. But they didn't and now they want to retroactively apply new rules.

Unregulated NIL was always going to produce this very situation. The NCAA needs to regulate the NOW not the past.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3402 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:37 pm to
A booster can now legally pay a kid enough to buy his own jet…but it’s illegal for a booster to give a kid a free jet ride.

Ladies and gentlemen, the NCAA.

The only institution possibly more backwards than DC.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28176 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:49 pm to
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Had they set ground rules


Why do folks keep saying this?

NCAA NIL rules and guidance June 31st 2021
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
3915 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:06 pm to
They provided new “guidance” summer of 2022.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 11:07 pm
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:47 pm to
You see how Texas has got into the business of giving free vehicles away to elite recruits?

Where did Sark get that idea from?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28176 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:53 pm to
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They provided new “guidance” summer of 2022.


So?

Did it somehow nullify the original rules?

Are you admitting that there were NIL rules to begin with?
Posted by DesertVol
Member since Feb 2024
1 post
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:56 pm to
The chancellor's letter to the NCAA specifically says that no UT employee (i.e. coaches) have been accused of anything. This came after the meeting with the NCAA to tell her what was discovered in the investigation and what was going to probably be in the NOA.

Also, I don't believe you know who paid for the plane ride. One of the beat writers covering UT said UT showed the NCAA the receipt.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 11:59 pm
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
3915 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:01 am to
Look up what changed. They are trying to retroactively apply guidance released in 2022 to the previous year.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:04 am to
He has lost his argument. He needs to just GTFO!
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:06 am to
And you can't virtually do that, especially after a court ruiling.

Now the NCAA is on death watch all thanks to Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12812 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:42 am to
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:27 am to
Georgia fans are all exposing themselves that they forgot their zipper is open.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28176 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:21 am to
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Look up what changed


You made the claim

Post a link
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13183 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:36 am to
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Unregulated NIL was always going to produce this very situation. The NCAA needs to regulate the NOW not the past.


The first thing the NCAA should focus on in my opinion is the portal. They can control that. Limit the number of times a kid can transfer and make them sit out a year once they do. Way to many exceptions to the rule. It would eliminate roster tampering that NIL is exploiting. Again start with something they can control.

Using NIL to recruit a player is just another form of what has always been going on but allowing free agency in CFB was not smart on their part.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40606 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:41 am to
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allowing free agency in CFB was not smart on their part.


Didn’t they let it happen due to court rulings?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21105 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:57 am to
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Congratulations. You just gave the NCAA the power to issue subpoenas to Spyre.


Do feel Spyre is subject to NCAA jurisdiction? Spyre is not a booster, they are marketing brokerage. Spyre is not a collective, Spyre is not a subsidiary of the university of Tennessee.

The membership of the NCAA did not vote on any bylaws governing this situation and is trying to retroactively change policy against its own bylaws.

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