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re: Vol Football: History doesn't repeat but it rhymes

Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:08 am to
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:08 am to
Vandy?

It’s incessantly brought up by the board as a limitation for Tennessee.



Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:09 am to
Have you seen the Tennessee coaching staff?

Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:04 am to
Tennessee also benefited from Clemson, Georgia and South Carolina all being down in the mid to late 90’s.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
1847 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:30 am to
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Find the right guy and let him do his thing


Boom. When you scrape the bottom of the barrel for coaches, you are going to get shite results. We need Huepel to stabilize the program for a few years. Nothing special, win some games, show some promise. Return the stability and bring in some revenue. Give us a platform to make an elite, ridiculous money hire somewhere a few years down the line.


Heupel is scraping the bottom of the barrel though

The biggest difference between you guys and 07 Bama is that they hired a dude with a national championship ring away from the Phins

You guys got the dude who was on his way to tanking UCFs program
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:33 am to
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Not sure Heupel is the guy

Don’t worry. The rest of us are sure whether he is or not
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 12:07 pm to
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The biggest difference between you guys and 07 Bama is that they hired a dude with a national championship ring away from the Phins


That was important for our long-term success, no doubt, but Mike Shula doesn't get enough credit for stabilizing the program in the aftermath of the Albert Means scandal as well as the Dennis Franchione-Mike Price fiascos. Mal Moore also did an excellent job of modernizing our facilities and making Alabama a desirable place for a top-flight coach like Saban to leave an NFL franchise for.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 12:50 pm to
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What SEC team doesn’t recruit nationally?


Missouri?
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Of the top 23 ranked prospects in the state of Tennessee, 0 are committed to the vols. Only 6 of those 23 are uncommitted. Until you lock down your state recruiting nationally doesn’t matter.


It's the most concerning thing right now, but these instate kids are more privy to the dysfunction that's gone on, especially the last 5 years. If we win 6 or more, I expect half of those kids committed to flip, and we'll end up with a Hayden or Nolen as the centerpiece. Happened with both Jones and Pruitt's first class after massively disappointing 5-7 seasons, the difference is, this time kids wanna see progression, so 5-7 won't cut it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Missouri


They in ga
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 3:52 pm to
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Tennessee also benefited from Clemson, Georgia and South Carolina all being down in the mid to late 90’s.


Georgia wasn't down in the 90's. they had 4 9-10 win seasons when 9 wins meant something.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:14 pm to
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Missouri


They in ga



One state makes them national?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:17 pm to
All that OP blah blah blah, and to summarize that up in 6 words....

"We are Tenn and we suck"
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 8:27 pm to
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As it has been said before ad nauseam, the athletic department has been an absolute disaster of incompetence.


It really doesn't go beyond this. And this is a far greater problem than recruiting. You'd think the haters would be happy to accept the truth of this situation since it means far more misery for us and a steeper hill to climb than simply hiring an ace recruiter.

That said, these are fanbases that simply can't think past the idea of in state (and close to in state) talent being the key to success because that is how recruiting works for their teams when the key to our success has always been national. Not in-state and not even regional talent but national talent that draws from all corners of the US and sometimes outside of its borders.
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