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re: Vol assaults AR fans post-game
Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:59 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:59 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Arkansas did it the right way by having less security which caused less problems in 2014, 2021 and last night.
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 1:59 pm to DocHogliday
The amount of Vol twatter fans defending him is absolutely disgraceful.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:00 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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Very easy to create a much more dangerous situation like that
It didn’t that night. And it served as a hell of a deterrent for others that had thought about it.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:00 pm to MillerLiteTime
TBH normally I normally don’t engage in legal discussions on social threads with non-lawyers for all the reasons that are illustrated in this thread because it is normally all emotion and seldom solidly grounded legal arguments that have anything at all to do with the real state of the law. List Servs and the like with other lawyers are admittedly different.
I do not have to tout my credentials to you and even as a lawyer I understand I will never know but a small part of it overall as it is so vast but that said I know more than most lawyers and most citizens about Arkansas criminal law as one might reasonably expect because I have spent my entire professional life-going on 40 years now-in that capacity, including prosecuting and defending cases which arise at athletic events. But you seem to know more about the state of the law here it appears and do not seem to be willing to listen like some do so by all means please carry on with your misinformation.
I do not have to tout my credentials to you and even as a lawyer I understand I will never know but a small part of it overall as it is so vast but that said I know more than most lawyers and most citizens about Arkansas criminal law as one might reasonably expect because I have spent my entire professional life-going on 40 years now-in that capacity, including prosecuting and defending cases which arise at athletic events. But you seem to know more about the state of the law here it appears and do not seem to be willing to listen like some do so by all means please carry on with your misinformation.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:01 pm to dhuck20
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The amount of Vol twatter fans defending him is absolutely disgraceful.
Obviously self defense when you push a guy running away from you in the back.
Players not even allowed to do that to other players during plays
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:01 pm to Litigator
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TBH normally I normally don’t engage in legal discussions on social threads with non-lawyers for all the reasons that are illustrated in this thread because it is normally all emotion and seldom solidly grounded legal arguments that have anything at all to do with the real state of the law. List Servs and the like with other lawyers are admittedly different.
I do not have to tout my credentials to you and even as a lawyer I understand I will never know but a small part of it overall as it is so vast but that said I know more than most lawyers and most citizens about Arkansas criminal law as one might reasonably expect because I have spent my entire professional life-going on 40 years now-in that capacity, including prosecuting and defending cases which arise at athletic events. But you seem to know more about the state of the law here it appears and do not seem to be willing to listen like some do so by all means please carry on with your misinformation.
Don't post facts in this thread.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:03 pm to DawgsLife
quote:He might just pick a Dawg or two in Athens this year. They gonna get knocked the frick out.
The team that had a player arrested for felony assault, (plead guilty to it) and got a 2 game suspension last year.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:05 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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The decision to press charges is up to the plaintiff
So only a victim, or as you say a plaintiff, can press charges?
Well in that case he should just kill the next fan that runs at him. If the victim is dead, and only the victim can press charges as you claim, then he can’t be charged.
Surely this is all just an act and you are not as dumb as you seem in this thread.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:07 pm to captdalton
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Well in that case he should just kill the next fan that runs at him. If the victim is dead, and only the victim can press charges as you claim, then he can’t be charged.
Wtf? If the victim is dead then the family is likely the plaintiff you absolute troglodyte
The plaintiff is literally the party filing charges… so whether or not charges are brought is always up to the “plaintiff”.
You yourself decided to define the plaintiff as “only the victim” …and then argued with yourself.
“Surely this is all just an act and you are not as dumb as you seem in this thread.”
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:10 pm to DeathByTossDive225
So, when is the plaintiff filing charges against the Tennessee player? Will you be sure and let us know?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:11 pm to MillerLiteTime
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You can't be this dumb.
It is no dumber than saying a player is scared of a fan and has a right to attack them. Nobody was rushing at the player. Nobody was even moving towards the player. But he has a right to attack them because...why, exactly?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:11 pm to captdalton
You’ve lost your point completely & already wrecked your credibility lmao.
Whether this guy files charges or not has no bearing on whether or not the TN player’s actions were legal.
Whether this guy files charges or not has no bearing on whether or not the TN player’s actions were legal.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:12 pm to CajunVoodoo
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In a situation where fans rush the field at a college football game in Arkansas and make contact with an opposing player, several laws and penalties could be broken.
But the fan did not make contact with the player until the player turned around and shoved the fan.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:13 pm to DeathByTossDive225
What about the LSU player that pushed the Ole Miss fan to the ground last year? Will charges be brought against him too?
I may have missed it, but where are all the examples you were going to provide of players charged with assault? We are still waiting.
I may have missed it, but where are all the examples you were going to provide of players charged with assault? We are still waiting.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:13 pm to captdalton
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It depends on whether you perceive them as a threat.
So, it is your opinion that the 320 pound DT perceived the 170 pound student as a threat?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:13 pm to DawgsLife
A coward the player is.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:15 pm to DawgsLife
He was butthurt.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:15 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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You’ve lost your point completely & already wrecked your credibility lmao.
You are the one advocating for fans storming the field. I feel pretty good about my position.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:15 pm to MillerLiteTime
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The fans rushing at him were not "standing", they were running.
You need to go back and rewatch the clip. they were not running, and they certainly were not running at him.
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Does this really have to be explained?
Posted on 10/6/24 at 2:16 pm to captdalton
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What about the LSU player that pushed the Ole Miss fan to the ground last year? Will charges be brought against him too?
I may have missed it, but where are all the examples you were going to provide of players charged with assault? We are still waiting.
Pathetic deflection. You got called out on ignorance. Lack of a charge does not mean a crime was not committed. It just means a charge was not brought.
I explained the reasons a potential plaintiff may not choose to file (including the fact that they are, you know… fans) & you turned into a parrot.
…I can’t help it if you’re retarded.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 2:18 pm
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