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re: USA Today: LSU knew in 2018 that officials kept allegations against athletes in-house

Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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Baylor lying about rape statistics is a little different than LSU athletics middle managers taking accusations directly to the police and not the Title IX coordinator.


For what it's worth, I agree that this situation with LSU pales in comparison to what was going on at Baylor. Unfortunately for LSU, this is just the cherry on top of what already appeared to be an athletic department in disarray and disinterested in compliance.
Posted by Bean127
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:36 am to
hey... we have a change to go .500
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:36 am to
The Mercedes dealership is a large well funded CCP psyops campaign. Saban allowed them to use 5g sound wave tech to emit signals to alter brain function. It only affects five stars and their immediate families.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:39 am to
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You smugly asked what sanctions had been levied

right, because the answer to that is none. Being investigated is not a sanction. Or do I need to explain to you what the word "allegation" means. The Baylor AD has received no sanctions. "Probation" from the accreditation board is what UNC got for literally giving grades for fake classes. You know what the actual weight of that was? Nothing. It went away. Their school didn't lose their funding. It's "firm" way of saying don't do that anymore.

I know reality may not live up to your wet dreams, but someone has to be the bearer of bad news for you buddy.

I'm very aware of what is going on at Baylor. They started an investigation in 2016 for allegations dating as far back as 2009 and won't issue a ruling, at the earliest, until 2021. Everyone involved with the issues is no longer at Baylor. Most experts, legal and otherwise, do not expect Baylor to be punished at this point. At most, some expect Art Briles may be show-caused.

Do you realize that the NCAA has tried to charge Baylor with giving impermissible benefits to athletes based on not reporting Title IX complaints? Do you have any idea how flimsy that is even under the NCAA's own bylaws? That's why most expect Baylor to get off light at this point, because their case alleging NCAA infractions is questionable at best. Was wrong done? Sure. But is it an NCAA matter? Probably not.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:42 am to
Every Ole Miss fan knows this move all too well.

The Pre-NSD Hit Piece. It's the NCAA's opening salvo against your football program.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:42 am to
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This same Tuscaloosa once tried to argue that Alabama doesn’t cheat in recruiting because they don’t have to cheat.




In serious discussions, Tuscaloosa’s posted on this very board that he witnessed a very prominent Alabama assistant commit an NCAA violation.

In one of my old jobs I held in my own hands evidence of potential NCAA violations by every single SEC west team and all but a couple of the east teams.

All of us break the rules to a degree. Most are smart enough to not use hookers and university phones.

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:42 am to
Sounds like a good movie. Get Out + The Blind Side.
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:45 am to
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All of this happened under the previous AD


If you don't think Woodward knew anything about it, you are ignorant. The entire Athletic Department is implicated. Given he didn't want to really be AD, and was promised higher positions it is a gamble. Does this come out before he can move to the University Presidency or such ...

But a gamble that is not paying off for him,. LSU is going to get flattened for this, and a lot of their coaches are probably going to end up banned and shunned in the court of public opinion like Briles was ...
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:48 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:47 am to
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If you don't think Woodward knew anything about it, you are ignorant. The entire Athletic Department is implicated.


All of this happened prior to Woodward even coming to LSU, the only "new news" are the Guice allegations which happened in 2016.

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But a gamble that is not paying off for him,. LSU is going to get flattened for this, and a lot of their coaches are probably going to end up banned like Briles was ...


This is a weird take since the only coaches alleged to have committed any wrongdoing are in women's tennis.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:48 am to
Just wait and see. You talk about Pearl and Auburn. The NCAA might as well set up shop in Baton Rouge as well
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:50 am to
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Just wait and see. You talk about Pearl and Auburn. The NCAA might as well set up shop in Baton Rouge as well


Now you're deflecting from the fact that your statements made no sense.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:52 am to
It was more surprising that it wasn’t wolken or Forde writing it. They’ll start the tweet barrages soon.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:04 am to
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It was more surprising that it wasn’t wolken or Forde writing it. They’ll start the tweet barrages soon.


Probably bc it took too much work to put together. They are more interested in narrative-driven low-hanging fruit bc they are bloated, lazy mouthpieces.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by Maravich
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:08 am to



Alabama fans with the death penalty comments
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:25 am to
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I think Baylor got hit because their head coach and his son got caught promoting the culture. The last lawsuit alleged 52 counts of rape over 4 years being covered up at multiple levels in the athletic department.

If LSU had anything like that going on then hit them with the LOIC. I don't think that's the case though.


I have always said lets wait for the Independent Audit Report. But from what we know, there were 9 LSU football players accused of Title IX violations, 8 of them were dismissed from the team and LSU.

The accused are entitled to due process. Only 1 of them, and yes it is Guice, was not dismissed. So I reject the notion that LSU did anything on the level of Baylor. Anyone making such suggestions is just hoping LSU gets hammered purely from a competitive perspective relative to football. Other than Alabama, who doesn't need to worry as the way they recruit and coach, all other fans here are if their honest with themselves are using this with the hope that LSU gets like 30 Scholarship reductions.

With that said, Title IX is Federal Law Matter and while LSU did in the end launch 8 of the 9 accused players, that doesn't mean that every LSU Administrator or Coach, all of which are defined by LSU as "Title IX Responsible Parties" followed LSU's Title IX Policies.

LSU did investigate the claims, players were kicked off the team but there could be some LSU employees in the AD or other football related areas (coaches) that did not do what they were legally responsible to do under Title IX.

So I don't see any "coverup" in the sense that the allegations were not reported to Title IX coordinators, nor is there any evidence that these were not investigated. There does appear to be some parties that had information and did not report it and not want to get involved which seems to have contributed to the investigative process taking longer than what it perhaps could have.

Again, if the Title IX independent audit report documents someone did not comply with LSU's Title IX policies, they should be fired. How many people that entails, not sure. But did LSU totally fail to investigate Title IX allegations across the Institution, I don't see that as well.

Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:26 am to
Who amongst us is not willing for a 1/3 of Coach Os pay to cleanup the program and preside over sub-par mediocrity for the next 3-10 years?

I mean I would be the best at protecting the victims while offering no quarter to anyone accused of crimes. Then I would hire some average coordinators to do the coaching with a copy of O’s binder. Collect my checks, rename buildings and streets, remove the live tiger mascot, change the nickname to something not mired in our racist confederate past, and laugh all the way to the bank. Sure, the fans would hate me and the sports media would laugh at my record, but I would be the envy of all the social justice programs and the MSM. Untouchable.

LSU backpedaling crawfish? Colors could be live brown and boiled red.

Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:37 am to
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Just wait and see. You talk about Pearl and Auburn. The NCAA might as well set up shop in Baton Rouge as well


Your comment doesn't make any sense. You seem to think Woodward will get wrapped up in this but he was at Washington and A&M when all of this happened. You're more wishing than stating.
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:44 am to
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Woodward and emmeretts kids are married. Let that sink in.


Thing is I don’t think the new review board reports to Emmert, it’s set up to be an independent enforcement of the ncaa. We also have separate issues FB and MBK are already in the review process, these allegations would be on top whatever is coming next year.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:32 pm to
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LSU is paying an outside law firm, Husch Blackwell, up to $100,000 to review cases


One of Husch Blackwell's recent partners, Zubin Khambatta, became a partner at Perkins Coie earlier this year.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 2:06 pm to
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wolken or Forde


Worthless.
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