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Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:32 am
I truly don’t understand these, but here you go
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:32 am to JesusQuintana
Tennessee is confusing. They haven’t been impressive in SEC play.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:34 am to JesusQuintana
Yea I truly don't get how Missouri is #23. Their "bad" loss is still a Q2 loss, they have 5 Q1 wins and 6 Q1/Q2 wins combined. Only 1 Q4 game.
Tennessee, on the other hand, is ranked #12 with 2 Q1 wins, 4 Q1/Q2 wins and 5 Q4 games. All 3 of their losses are Q1 losses, but does 1 Q2 loss really plummet you that much? I just don't get it.
You guys must have truly hit some sort of sweet spot for the NET to fvck you, cause I can't see it.
Tennessee, on the other hand, is ranked #12 with 2 Q1 wins, 4 Q1/Q2 wins and 5 Q4 games. All 3 of their losses are Q1 losses, but does 1 Q2 loss really plummet you that much? I just don't get it.
You guys must have truly hit some sort of sweet spot for the NET to fvck you, cause I can't see it.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:34 am to Lemonpuppy
Mizzou moved up one spot after a road win vs (then) #6 Tennessee
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:35 am to Lemonpuppy
Arkansas is confusing too.... we either look like a final four team or we get blown out...... only outlier is the Tennessee game really.
Even the second Auburn game we had a half of each. SOOOOOO confusing... but that's life with a young team sometimes.
Even the second Auburn game we had a half of each. SOOOOOO confusing... but that's life with a young team sometimes.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kenpom also hates us.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:38 am to JesusQuintana
I do understand Saturdays movement a little. Net dropped Tennessee pretty good, and Oregon and Wichita state both lost. All three thing happening is why we hardly moved.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:40 am to mizslu314
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Kenpom also hates us.
I at least kind of get this one - his formulas basically see Missouri as 3 different teams depending on the night - #10 team when they play well, #30 team when they play mediocre, #75 team when they play like arse. You net all that together and you get that rating.
JMHO
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
My biggest kicker is for the first few weeks his #1 measurer is experience. Idk where mizzou actually ranks in this, but Id guess maybe top 10 in experience.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:44 am to JesusQuintana
As an Alabama fan, when it comes to basketball my default is either "cautiously optimistic" or "constantly expecting the floor to collapse."
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:45 am to mizslu314
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My biggest kicker is for the first few weeks his #1 measurer is experience. Idk where mizzou actually ranks in this, but Id guess maybe top 10 in experience.
Yep - 7th. You guys finished #97 last year and started #59 this year, so there was a pretty substantial bump with what was essentially the same roster.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:47 am to mizslu314
KenPom has a lot of preseason data points in the calculation.
I’m not even sure what goes into the Net rankings
I’m not even sure what goes into the Net rankings
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:48 am to JesusQuintana
Net takes in a lot of things but the biggest thing is how your competition is doing. Kenpom is more about your team stats and net wants to know how the teams you played are doing currently.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:50 am to mizslu314
That makes sense. So a combo of the 2 would be a really good poll.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:50 am to mizslu314
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Net takes in a lot of things but the biggest thing is how your competition is doing. Kenpom is more about your team stats and net wants to know how the teams you played are doing currently.
Very true.
I've seen teams win their games and drop in Net because their opponents had really bad weeks.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:51 am to JesusQuintana
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KenPom has a lot of preseason data points in the calculation.
It's mostly phased out by this point
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I’m not even sure what goes into the Net rankings
It's just a formula to calculate based on wins and losses and who you beat and where. The difference in it and RPI is that it adds in a lot more weight to home/road/neutral - which is why a win over #33 at home is a Q2 win while a win over #67 on the road is a Q1 win.
The thing about Missouri is their resume seems to check all the boxes for a high NET ranking. I can't figure out where the math formula docks Mizzou out of a Top 15 spot. They seem to literally check all the boxes more so than a lot of the #15-20 teams.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:54 am to mizslu314
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I do understand Saturdays movement a little. Net dropped Tennessee pretty good, and Oregon and Wichita state both lost. All three thing happening is why we hardly moved.
Yeah, the specific movement last week seems to make some sense.
Still, it's odd just looking at the way NET and PRI has Q1/Q2 wins that Missouri wouldn't really have a better NET. Missouri is 5-1 and 1-1 in NET Q1/Q2. They are 2-0 and 2-2 in RPI.
Otherwise, RPI is the system which seems to have a lot more outliers than NET so far: Georgia State #12, Navy #13, Army #29, Pacific #37, Iowa #43, St Louis #60, Texas Tech #71. . .
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:56 am to wm72
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Still, it's odd just looking at the way NET and PRI has Q1/Q2 wins that Missouri wouldn't really have a better NET. Missouri is 5-1 and 1-1 in how NET has Q1/Q2 records and 3-0 and 2-2 in RPI.
I really am completely confused by it. What are we missing?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
Some guy just ranks the teams how he wants and makes up a bullshite formula for how he got there.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I really am completely confused by it. What are we missing?
Does margin of loss play a factor?
They only have the two, but lost one by 20 and the other by 15.
Just grasping here. They have a solid OOC win (Oregon) and a really good one (Illinois). So no clue.
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