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re: Upcoming coach firings

Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:17 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:17 am to
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but how long until they say well you made the play offs and got bounced 3 times in a row in the first round?


pretty much this
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:18 am to
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Missouri: yes



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Drink is about to get a fatty raise soon
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:18 am to
I think you are underestimating A&M patience with coaches. Let us say that Fisher sends a good portion of his contract getting "close", especially with the expanded CFP. As long as he continues on the path he is now, he will probably be the coach at A&M for his entire contract

Especially with the recruiting, as he has greatly increased the overall talent level in less than four years. Now what remains to be seen is what happens when Elko inevitably leaves in the next couple of years. I think those "assistants" that were brought in will move up within the A&M coaching structure.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:23 am to
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FayetteNAM
Posted by tgrmeat
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:39 am to
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Ole Gus made out like a bandit and those 3 wins vs The King made him millions.


Gus is really in y'all's head.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:44 am to
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I get that, but how long until they say well you made the play offs and got bounced 3 times in a row in the first round? It happens in the NBA and will become normal in the expanded play offs.



Not as fast as fans are getting impatient when their team isn't in the 4 team playoff.

And then there are always the recruits surrounding the program. Why is the perception that Kirby has all this time to figure it out. They haven't sniffed a playoff spot in 3 years with arguably the best talent in America. Nothing says hope like 4 and 5-star athletes all over campus.

Jimbo is stockpiling the best talent in the state that has plenty and then some. The aggies are happy with the guys they see coming into the program, just like Georgia fans. Immediate results be damned.
Posted by Lowes knowsLSU
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:48 am to
You trying to get attention? Only 10 percent of that post seems relevant
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:15 am to
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Huh? He went, 6-2 as interim, 9-4, then 10-3 in 18. Won NC in 19', forget last year, that was a wash!


Half this board of LSU people would come on and ask for him to be fired, he will never beat Saban. Etc. I forgot half of you are retarded, but that doesn’t happen for most of the other coaches.

Even aTm, they will say man we were close, if this would have went right, we are on the right track.

Half your fans want O gone after each loss. That’s a uniquely LSU thing. That’s why I said definitely.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:21 am to
5 and 5 but hey lets forget that....we'll see
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:31 am to
We will learn a lot about orgeron this year. We actually return a good bit this year . Hes had one below average year and the others have been pretty good, or at least he did something impressive in that particular season ,like a big turnaround or something. Hell now that I think about it. He did something good last year at the end.

Be honest ,who thought we would win those last two games. The dudes proven to be pretty good at running a program, bit this year will tell us whether or not hes a guy that will be consistent over time I believe.

I think jimbo is doing a good job and will be there a while. He just had to get the ball rolling and hes done that.his recruiting will get better and better.

Mullen is one or two childish frick ups away from getting the boot. That motherfricker is the cringeist bastard I've ever seen and is so immature that its unbelievable he can even function at his job.

Kirby needs to take a page from coach o and quit accepting anything that's not championship worthy. frick continuity with the coaches.its not worth it If it's not capable of winning it all .get rid of the offensive cordinator until you find what works, and when you do then try to recreate that. Imo that's coach os strongest point. He wasnt and isnt satisfied with 10 wins if it includes a 29-0 loss to bama,and that's even a year with good players. You have to keep trying till you get someone that doesnt have a ceiling. With the offense hes running ,theres a ceiling to a pro style offense, it should make a pretty strong statement to kirby when he tries to find when the last a pro style offensive team even played in the natty. It may have been the bama vs lsu natty. The games changed . In the pro style /three wrs at the most offense, You have to have the best players and be perfect in execution to win it all and beat teams like 2020 bama or 2019 lsu. A pro style offense isnt capable of doing that imo.even an above average spread may not be capable of producing like those offenses of 2019 lsu and 2020 bama did , but it would be closer to it than pro style would .you dont have to be able to beat that type team yearly though ,but you need to be able to come close and that may be enough . It would be closer to those teams than pro style would,with the same players.

In regards to kirby ,Hes waiting too long to make the move that has to be made. Saban made it, o made it,kiffin does it .
Jimbo will make the switch too.

Kirby may have already won a national championship if he ran a spread offense and used Sony Michelle (sic)as a clyde Edwards hellaire type back that never came off the field and was a matchup nightmare. Then use chubb to run the ball when you want to slow it down.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:44 am to
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Half your fans want O gone after each loss. That’s a uniquely LSU thing. That’s why I said definitely.


The fans aren't the ones who fire him...
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:56 am to
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The fans aren't the ones who fire him...

When your stadium is empty, it does.

Do I think O will get that bad? No.
Do I believe you will not win the west more than 2 times in the next few years? Yes. That will get him fired. But who knows with the way your state produces linemen offense and defense you might just make the 12 team play off every year and still not beat Alabama.
Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:03 am to
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The fans aren't the ones who fire him...


Our fans fired Kevin Steele before they ever hired him!
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:32 am to
I dont know if you follow lsu much and/or follow sec recruiting much,but the defensive line, interior and pass rushers, that lsu has buil and is building with incoming freshman and some veteran dts is gonna be incredible next year and beyond.

Hell we had some great pass rushers last year and they all return this year. We return our two senior dts ,return our two best pass rushers in bj ojulari and allie gaye,and have an incoming freshman dt named maason smith who is the top 1 or 2 ,depending on the source ,recruit overall in the nation.

The veteran dts ,who are studs , got outplayed by last years Freshman dts . So we will have a fresh rotation of dts ,olbs and d ends. (depending on formation)
Also have some good in state dts for 2022 class.

Because of the current and future players in That d line I talked about above,the qb situation which is great and we have a 5 star qb committed , the young DBS we have already on the team ,the depth of blue chip receivers we have and have committed to us ,I believe we are set up to be in the top 10 pretty much consistantly.

No way coach o can frick all of that up.

If you are familiar with our roster and follow recruiting, u would agree with me. Hell,ask anyone that knows recruiting if they ever remember lsu doing better than we are now, they will say it's the best it's been.

Oh,I forgot. According to analytics, draft stock potential ,and the eye test ,we have the best corner in the nation on one side and the second best db in the nation on the other side. S stingley and Rick's. Both had unreal Freshman seasons.sting was banged up last year but I know yall know hes damn good against anyone but devonta smith.combine that ,with our d line, and it would take another bo pelini to frick this up. We also have to hope our lb and saftey play is better played by the new freshman ,if they play,and well coached .
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:38 am to
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When your stadium is empty, it does.



You just said LSU fans melt like no other when they lose then you say fan melts will cause O to get fired despite the fact that we kept Miles for 10 years and there were plenty of fan melts during his tenure.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21935 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:06 pm to
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No way coach o can frick all of that up.
Never say never ...
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 6:55 pm to
Mizzou is not a school that will weigh "Record vs. Saban" in the equation to keep a coach or not.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:00 pm to
Assuming Saban retires in 3 years:

Tenn: yes, they hired an interim coach
Auburn: same as Tenn

MSU and Ole Miss are both 50/50

L1U: Most likely. O is too dumb to hold things together.

A&M: No - too arrogant to fire big hole even if he starts sucking.

Georgia and Florida: Same as A&M

Kentucky: Probably

Mizzou and Arkie will fire their coach the same year, but probably not until AS (After Saban).
Posted by Tanny Bogus
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2011
177 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:13 pm to
I could see Pittman changing roles and focusing more on OL and recruiting instead of getting straight up fired.
Posted by Lowes knowsLSU
Texas
Member since May 2021
1400 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:36 pm to
The Arkansas guy the way he does things down there will be so easy to beat, I'm expecting a beat down from every team in the sec. That guy may be gone quicker than you think
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