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re: UNLV QB quits immediately over NIL
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:49 am to Quicksilver
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:49 am to Quicksilver
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his son's agents
This may be the craziest thing in this whole mess. A Holy Cross quarterback with a career completion percentage of 57% has agents.
I wonder who the agents are. Surely not a crazy uncle. Because there always seems to be a crazy uncle involved in these type shitshows.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:49 am to Quicksilver
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No surprise that collectives are making promises they can't keep.
This didn't happen. The collective met it's obligation to the player. After a couple of decent games, the player thinks he's worth more. So he asks for more. The collective said, no. Player decides to quit.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:49 am to Lawyered
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Yep. Massive red flag
And if he goes elsewhere.. will he pull the same shite there and extort your team or threaten to quit
I call bullshite on you. If your son was offered $400,000 to play at a school, and they paid nothing, you would be all up in their shite.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:50 am to Lg
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This didn't happen. The collective met it's obligation to the player. After a couple of decent games, the player thinks he's worth more. So he asks for more. The collective said, no. Player decides to quit.
The school says that. The dad says he never got a dime. Who is right?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:51 am to Lg
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This didn't happen. The collective met it's obligation to the player. After a couple of decent games, the player thinks he's worth more. So he asks for more. The collective said, no. Player decides to quit.
The dad's quotes are literally on the last page detailing that the player never got a dollar from the UNLV collective.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:51 am to i am dan
Well, I guess it's about who we believe. The businessman who allowed that all contractual obligations have been provided or the kid who has had a short run of success and suddenly decides that he needs more to fulfill the contract he already signed.
Someone is lying...and I don't think it's the business guys as they don't want to get sued.
Someone is lying...and I don't think it's the business guys as they don't want to get sued.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:51 am to Houag80
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The game has been ruined. The genie ain't going back in that bottle.
And it seems as popular as ever. It's a sport we love and hate now.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:52 am to i am dan
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So, who do you people believe now?
How about none of them?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:53 am to Quicksilver
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No surprise that collectives are making promises they can't keep.
Even if he was underperforming how stupid do you have to be to pull this shite with your starting QB after an amazing start to the season? Even if he did come and ask for more money, you better try to work something out with him.
The optics of this for UNLV and Odom are beyond awful. A lot of fans will side with the university regardless of what the truth is but players will be easily poisoned against any institution where something like this occurs. If I was another MW team I would be on the phone with every good player on that roster before the day was done.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:54 am to i am dan
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These players aren't dealing with the schools for their payments.
Okay then. Sue the collective. But don't quit on the team and the school.
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Not a dollar of NIL money goes through a school.
But the school loses in the end.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:54 am to Quicksilver
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I certainly believe the dad. We have already seen this before with a much bigger NIL collective and player with Florida and Rashada. No surprise that collectives are making promises they can't keep.
Honestly didn't think of this situation as yet another major issue the sport has going forward.
It will cause many transfers.
NIL is a poison that will take it's toll on the sport.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:55 am to captdalton
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How about none of them?
Well, you have a binary situation with parties representing each side of that.
Somebody has to be telling the truth.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:56 am to i am dan
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Somebody has to be telling the truth.
It could be somewhere in the middle.
Kid was getting less that what was promised.
Or it was a verbal promise and nothing was in writing.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:57 am to i am dan
In a decade, players will be employees of the schools they play for and not under the pretense of the student-athlete which the NCAA fought so desperately to protect (so they could pad their pockets even more)
The NCAA fought the inevitable for so long. It's insane that it took so long for people to start suing the NCAA over it actually. The NCAA model wouldn't have made sense or lasted in any market, and if someone proposed it today, it would have been shot down immediately.
The NCAA fought the inevitable for so long. It's insane that it took so long for people to start suing the NCAA over it actually. The NCAA model wouldn't have made sense or lasted in any market, and if someone proposed it today, it would have been shot down immediately.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:58 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:57 am to Houag80
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Well, I guess it's about who we believe. The businessman who allowed that all contractual obligations have been provided or the kid who has had a short run of success and suddenly decides that he needs more to fulfill the contract he already signed.
Someone is lying...and I don't think it's the business guys as they don't want to get sued.
It's likely that neither are lying (as was the case with Jalen Rashada).
More than likely there were promises made and there was a signed contract and the two didn't match.
The collective lived up to the signed contract (which in this case allowed them to pay zero) and the player is upset that he was told he would get money and didn't get anything.
The "business guys" in this case never said they paid him anything. They said that "all contractual obligations have been provided".
That's a very polite way of saying "We don't have to pay you shite".
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:58 am to DawginSC
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The "business guys" in this case never said they paid him anything. They said that "all contractual obligations have been provided".
That's a very polite way of saying "We don't have to pay you shite".
I agree. I think nothing was signed. If that is the case, I'm 10000% on the side of the kid.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:02 am to Quicksilver
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In a decade, players will be employees of the schools they play for and not under the pretense of the student-athlete which the NCAA fought so desperately to protect (so they could pad their pockets even more)
The NCAA fought the inevitable for so long. It's insane that it took so long for people to start suing the NCAA over it actually. The NCAA model wouldn't have made sense or lasted in any market, and if someone proposed it today, it would have been shot down immediately.
Hell, there are already whispers of separating collegiate sports from academics... Not sure where this shite show is heading.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:03 am to HottyToddy7
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It could be somewhere in the middle.
Kid was getting less that what was promised.
Or it was a verbal promise and nothing was in writing.
True, we can make up anything in our mind. I guess you don't have to believe anyone. I imagine when you're dealing with possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars on a deal, it won't be just a verbal.... I say that because I won't believe there are people who are dumb enough to be involved in a verbal only $800,000 agreement. Not sure why you would think a deal that large could even be a verbal agreement. I mean think about that for a second.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:03 am to i am dan
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Somebody has to be telling the truth.
No, they don’t. Dad says he received nothing. Other guy says he received 100% of what was agreed too.
The truth could very well be in the middle. What if the guy has received his scheduled payments to date but not the full value of his contract. Or what if the guy had multiple deals and all but one has paid him. Again, the truth is usually in the middle. People that want everything to be black and white tend to be disappointed that most things are gray.
I don’t believe either side at this point. Why would I?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:07 am to DawginSC
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Dude’s a pussy arse quitter and I hope his former teammates beat his arse for being a giant fig.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:08 am
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