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Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48027 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:52 pm to
It kind of boils down to the fact that the opposing sides don't agree on the definition of a woman. It's hard to agree with people on complex issues if you cannot first agree with them on the simple issues.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:34 pm to
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Are you comparing this to what was, in effect, genocide?


No, I am not. I am highlighting how the type of argument he is using has never been accepted throughout history. Minor or decreasing levels of harm are not a reason to avoid acting against and preventing that harm.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 6:35 pm
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:45 pm to
Gay marriage was supposed to destroy marriage.

There were all kinds of fear based arguments against integration and interracial marriage.

Our history of civil rights in this country is a long, continuous history of fighting against the “othering” minorities of all kinds based on baseless fears and perceptions of harm and damage.



Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:13 pm to
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Gay marriage was supposed to destroy marriage.

There were all kinds of fear based arguments against integration and interracial marriage.

Our history of civil rights in this country is a long, continuous history of fighting against the “othering” minorities of all kinds based on baseless fears and perceptions of harm and damage.


Oh I see. You're in favor of men in women's sports. Got it.

You think wrong.
Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
950 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Glad there is a movement for this other than social media back and forth.

I feel like the only people who are on the other side are either A) not competitive B) have never played organized sports C) do not have a daughter or D) are so far woke anything pushed as trans they are all in on.

Like everything in life its easy to for many to support an issue that does not directly impact them. I for one will never let others take away my daughters right to compete fairly without a fight and I hope I never have to.
I agree, and this is so much more than sports. I won't elaborate b/c this is a sports forum, but far more implications than just unfair competition.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:58 am to
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Unarmed black men getting killed by white cops is so statistically rare as to be almost non-existent.


Such a weird line in a country where you’re supposed to be free to own and carry a gun!
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:28 am to
Not to get into politics, but many wonder why this is even an issue needing as much attention as it’s getting compared to other concerns.


As far as NCAA…” Out of over 500,000 student-athletes attending NCAA schools, fewer than 10 are transgender, NCAA President Charlie Baker said during a congressional hearing in December.”
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:33 am to
If I may ask, what sport(s) do you coach?

&, I noticed you said “we ran into ONE at a tournament”.
Thereby emphasizing the facts of how rare this occurs.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:38 am to
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5) Your physical advantage point makes no sense? Men do have physical advantages which is well documented. Its the same logic as I as an adult can not signup to play a sport against an 8 year old. Very clear physical advantages for me against a child. You comparing another man who is larger or more athletic than you to a trans man competing in female sports is apples and oranges.


What about the girls with more testosterone than others….are they also at a physical advantage? Should that be a concern? Where is the line drawn as balanced?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:44 am to
You mean government actually AGREEING on something?

This is like the argument over the term marriage & that “marriage” is only for procreation.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2371 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:46 am to
Good on our Wildcat Riley Gaines for continuing to stand firm on the message and be an advocate for women's sports.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18531 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:49 am to
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The thing is is it is almost non-existent to begin with. There are about 500,000 athletes in college sports in the US. .002% of them are trans people and not all of them are participating in a sport against people other than their assigned gender at birth. There have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 5000 medals awarded at the Olympics since steps were initiated to limit the participation of trans women in women sports and only a handfull of those went to trans athletes...maybe as few as one by some reporting.


1 time is too many. That 1 time means there are 3 women that worked their lives for this achievement and were pushed down the podium and will never get that opportunity again.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18531 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:51 am to
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Not to get into politics, but many wonder why this is even an issue needing as much attention as it’s getting compared to other concerns.


As far as NCAA…” Out of over 500,000 student-athletes attending NCAA schools, fewer than 10 are transgender, NCAA President Charlie Baker said during a congressional hearing in December.”


A. The number is growing every year at the youth level, so it will hit the NCAA harder

B. 1 is too many. Robbing young girls and women of their dreams.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2484 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:53 am to
Big chunk of red meat for something that basically never happens
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9233 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:56 am to
So, trans people should never be allowed to participate in sports?
Is that fair to them?
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11802 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:09 am to
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I feel like the only people who are on the other side are either A) not competitive B) have never played organized sports C) do not have a daughter or D) are so far woke anything pushed as trans they are all in on.


I feel like the only people who support people with dicks competing against women are mentally ill.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18531 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:50 am to
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So, trans people should never be allowed to participate in sports?
Is that fair to them?


They can compete with their biological gender group.

ETA:

Also, there shouldn't be underage people transitioning. Can't buy alcohol, cigarettes, or get a tattoo yet we allow them receive hormone therapy and surgeries that will forever change their lives. It's outrageous. Cut your hair short and wear different clothes, whatever, but you're too young to consent to changing your body forever and parents shouldn't be allowed to consent for that, especially considering how bad the average parent is in the US.

Once at NCAA level and a legal adult they can compete with their biological gender.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:21 am to
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Big chunk of red meat for something that basically never happens


Love the sarcasm here.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:23 am to
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So, trans people should never be allowed to participate in sports?


How would you ever possibly come to this conclusion?

How does being required to compete with your own gender equate to "never be allowed to participate in sports" in your mind?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
61917 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:26 am to
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Good on our Wildcat Riley Gaines for continuing to stand firm on the message and be an advocate for women's sports.


She's doing great work. She is a great representative of UK and the SEC.
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