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re: Unit rankings, if your units are in the top ten according to On3.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:54 am to rebelrouser
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:54 am to rebelrouser
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It's three deep, but three average qb's deep. I would rather have one stud and two less than average backups.
I don't disagree with you. I am just explaining the rationale used to create these rankings.
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:55 am to koreandawg
I appreciate the correction.
Stetson swapped series with Carson Beck.
And technically swapped with JT at vandy.
They were giving stetson a trial run with the offense. But they weren't handing him the keys. He was being forced to beat out the room.
Thus... competition.
Stetson swapped series with Carson Beck.
And technically swapped with JT at vandy.
They were giving stetson a trial run with the offense. But they weren't handing him the keys. He was being forced to beat out the room.
Thus... competition.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:56 am to koreandawg
Can't say I know much about other teams' tight end position groups, but I think LSU might actually be a little underrated there.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Sometimes, narratives run on the rant without any meat behind them.
Does a team "need" a Heisman type QB to win a championship? Yes or no?
If you have top 1 or 2 OL/DL/RB/LB/TE groupings and top 4-10 WR/DB groupings no it doesn’t.
That’s my entire point. Qb depth is a useless statistic if the rest of your team is absolutely loaded
In other words... no
So why are you so hung up on the qb rankings if it matters so little?
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:59 am to meansonny
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So why are you so hung up on the qb rankings if it matters so little?
None of these rankings matter, but the argument is that qb room depth doesn’t matter for 1 season if you have an absolute stud and nobody, I mean nobody, think UGA’s starter will be a top 10 qb this year
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:00 pm to GamecockUltimate
You sure? There were lots of yall saying he was better than Bowers.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:27 pm to Darindawg
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Does it matter? My wife could start at QB and we'd beat Auburn just on the strength and depth we have on the OLine and surrounding talent.
Don't cry and get all defensive over my normal question. Try being a normal person for sec.
Also, you didn't answer. Cool that you took this subjective grading to heart so hard though.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:35 pm to meansonny
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Carson Beck could be a first rounder if he meets Stetson's passing stats from last season.
Is that what you are looking for?
Hot take. A Power 5 QB that throws for 4,100 yards and 27 TDs could be a first rounder.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:45 pm to i am dan
"cry and get defensive"...??? What part of that comment sounded like I was crying? I was just stating a plain ol fact.
The answer to your question, truthfully is, you're right; Our QBs are unproven and not one of them has started a game. One would think then they don't deserve any preseason hype or consideration for accolades.
BUT...the truth is, we return 4 out of 5 starting OLinemen, the best TE in the country, are deep at WR and RB, and have an easier schedule than last season when we ran the table.
So, let me ask you; What's the chances our starting QB, whoever he is, puts up big numbers and will lead his team to at least an SECCG, maybe a natty?
The answer to your question, truthfully is, you're right; Our QBs are unproven and not one of them has started a game. One would think then they don't deserve any preseason hype or consideration for accolades.
BUT...the truth is, we return 4 out of 5 starting OLinemen, the best TE in the country, are deep at WR and RB, and have an easier schedule than last season when we ran the table.
So, let me ask you; What's the chances our starting QB, whoever he is, puts up big numbers and will lead his team to at least an SECCG, maybe a natty?
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:52 pm to Darindawg
There's a reason they are broken into groups. It' not total offense.
But yeah, good groups on offense can/will make the qb seem better, but mistakes can certainly be made even with an above average qb even in that situation.
But yeah, good groups on offense can/will make the qb seem better, but mistakes can certainly be made even with an above average qb even in that situation.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:13 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Carson Beck could be a first rounder if he meets Stetson's passing stats from last season.
Is that what you are looking for?
Hot take. A Power 5 QB that throws for 4,100 yards and 27 TDs could be a first rounder.
The NFL isn't looking for stats (see Anthony richardson vs Stetson Bennett).
The NFL is looking for pro prospects. The stats just reinforce the perception of the tangibles and mental fortitude of the QB.
Carson Beck looks like a pro QB. He just needs to show the mental fortitude which is a valid question mark at this point.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:17 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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None of these rankings matter
Preseason never matters.
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but the argument is that qb room depth doesn’t matter for 1 season if you have an absolute stud and nobody,
I just listed 4 seasons where UGA had a 5 star QB split the season with a different QB (Eason/Fromm, Fromm/Fields, Daniels/Bennett, and Daniels/Bennett).
You couldn't be more wrong.
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I mean nobody, think UGA’s starter will be a top 10 qb this year
Bookmarked and posted in the locker room. Thank you.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:52 pm to i am dan
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Georgia scored a 6 on QB. Who is Georgia's QB? Has he ever started a game?
Carson Beck. I was wondering how they ranked him, too. He has played a decent amount in mop up time and done well, but to rank him #6 with very little experience seems odd. If he is the #6 QB we will be in great shape.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:56 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Honest question, is UGA really the 6th best QB room in the country?
The room as a whole may be better than #6. However, I think they are ranking the starting unit. But that brings up the, "How did they rank Beck #6?" He looked good in his limited time, and looked good in the spring, but until he does it in the regular season? Who knows.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:57 pm to DawgsLife
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If he is the #6 QB we will be in great shape.
6 QB room.
So add Vandagriff and Stockton to the equation.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:07 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Looks like Brian Kelly is developing a roster
He always has the bastard...
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:08 pm to i am dan
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Georgia scored a 6 on QB. Who is Georgia's QB? Has he ever started a game?
Kirby Smart has proven you can start a 5 foot tall no talent walk on midget and dominate college football with enough talent around him and good coaching...cause eerybody knows Stetson Bennett wasn't no QB at all....
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:09 pm to koreandawg
Bro… I won’t get to upset with being honorable mentions at WR or DL but LB should be top 10 in my BIASED opinion.
But how the frick did they not mention Mizzou at the secondary positions. Mizzou is fricking loaded back there. Not even HM. Weird.
But how the frick did they not mention Mizzou at the secondary positions. Mizzou is fricking loaded back there. Not even HM. Weird.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:12 pm to TouchdownTony
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Yea, because you just know these are 100 percent accurate.
Let's see this list after the season is over.
I agree. LSU's TE group rank of 9 is an absolute disgrace to all rankings in history.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:13 pm to rebelrouser
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It's three deep, but three average qb's deep. I would rather have one stud and two less than average backups.
I believe Walker Howard could end up being the best Ole Miss QB since Eli. The raw talent is there, Kiffin is there to develop him, and honestly, the bar is not that high since Eli. I also think Dart will probably be better than the average QB this year.
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