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re: Understanding why Oklahoma fans think their past schedule indicates future SEC success
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:07 pm to CharlotteSooner
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:07 pm to CharlotteSooner
quote:the hilarious irony of all of this is:
Old Tardge up to his usual, insecure lil bro shenanigans
Baylor - more recent 10-win season than A&M
Iowa state - more recent conference championship game appearance than A&M
Kansas State - beat A&M head-to-head each of the last 4 times they played
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:08 pm to TheRaid
Current SEC teams with below .500 records:
Kentucky - 628-632-44 (.498)
Mississippi State - 573-592-39 (.492)
Vanderbilt - 609-638-50 (.489)
Big XII teams with below .500 records:
Kansas - 586-660-58 (.472)
Iowa State - 548-658-46 (.456)
Kansas State - 543-658-41 (.454)
Kentucky - 628-632-44 (.498)
Mississippi State - 573-592-39 (.492)
Vanderbilt - 609-638-50 (.489)
Big XII teams with below .500 records:
Kansas - 586-660-58 (.472)
Iowa State - 548-658-46 (.456)
Kansas State - 543-658-41 (.454)
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:08 pm to CharlotteSooner
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And that's a good thing for us, not a bad thing.
For sure.
Y'all are gonna come into the conference and be ready to compete.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:35 pm to Old Sarge
Why does A&M think their past anything indicates future success? Delusion.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:36 pm to XWing atAliciousness
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Baylor - more recent 10-win season than A&M
Iowa state - more recent conference championship game appearance than A&M
Kansas State - beat A&M head-to-head each of the last 4 times they played
Big12 accomplishments don't really mean shite here, sorry.
You basically have your own currency, let's call them peso's. Now you're coming into a new country with it's own currency, let's call it a dollar.
You're gonna need to exchange that into real funds, and exchange rate is going to be shite for you. Because nobody gives a frick if Iowa St made a Big12 conference championship game.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:37 pm to JustinOKC
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Why does any top program walk into a new season with rankings and expectations? Why is BAMA slated #1 overall? Because of recruiting, returners and player development...
OU currently recruits like the 6th best team in the SEC. This is what’s so fricking funny.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:42 pm to 3down10
quote:ok except - and bear with me here - an A&M fan is ridiculing those teams when they have accomplished less since they left and accomplished nothing of the sort while they were in the big 12. That was the whole point that clearly went over your head
Big12 accomplishments don't really mean shite here, sorry.
You basically have your own currency, let's call them peso's. Now you're coming into a new country with it's own currency, let's call it a dollar.
You're gonna need to exchange that into real funds, and exchange rate is going to be shite for you. Because nobody gives a frick if Iowa St made a Big12 conference championship game.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:26 pm to XWing atAliciousness
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ok except - and bear with me here - an A&M fan is ridiculing those teams when they have accomplished less since they left and accomplished nothing of the sort while they were in the big 12. That was the whole point that clearly went over your head
A&M has spent the past 9 years in the SEC. If they had played as well as they have here at times, none of those things would likely be true.
Instead they get stuck behind the same teams that have been kicking the shite out of Oklahoma in the playoffs etc.
They have been a better team than all those teams many years since joining the SEC.
You're citing things they aren't even eligible or involved in.
It's not like they've really done that bad in the SEC. Some up and down years, but overall above average.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:51 pm to JustinOKC
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Because of recruiting, returners and player development...
Who are you returning and what does your recruiting look like for 2025? If you end up coming in 2022, you’ll be in rebuilding mode
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:59 pm to Gary Busey
I realize Oklahoma is the new kid on the block in the SEC , and we’ve got to give them grief , but they are in fact a football power. It will be harder for them to win the Sec than it was the Big12 but they will do very well in this conference.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:08 pm to lsufball19
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Who are you returning and what does your recruiting look like for 2025? If you end up coming in 2022, you’ll be in rebuilding mode
8/11 on O and 10/11 starters on D
2022 they'll obviously be replacing some but it still won't be a full reload. Even if Rattler leaves after this season, they're covered solidly at QB for the next 2 generations. Barring no transfer portals.. Deep deep at WR and RB looks stout. Defense is continually getting bigger while maintaining some of the speed Stoops tried to make the priority when he was here. To me, the key is keeping Riley and Grinch on staff.
This won't wait until 2025. Money won't stop thos train. My $$ is the start of the 2022 season.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:14 pm to 3down10
quote:so saying all that, why is it a foregone conclusion that Texas is going to do poorly in the sec when A&M and Missouri were far more mediocre in the big 12 than Texas has been? Do you not see the logical fallacy here?
A&M has spent the past 9 years in the SEC. If they had played as well as they have here at times, none of those things would likely be true.
Instead they get stuck behind the same teams that have been kicking the shite out of Oklahoma in the playoffs etc.
They have been a better team than all those teams many years since joining the SEC.
You're citing things they aren't even eligible or involved in.
It's not like they've really done that bad in the SEC. Some up and down years, but overall above average.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:16 pm to Old Sarge
Yes because the SEC and the big12 are equal conference strength conferences.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:24 pm to XWing atAliciousness
OU will be fine. They will have an extra loss or two most seasons, but they are a great program. They won't start sucking like Texas.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:26 pm to kywildcatfanone
Over the last 15-20 years we've seen the SEC rise above the rest of the college football world. And it's no surprise given the SEC sits in the hotbed of college football recruiting.
As stated earlier, the history of Oklahoma football speaks for itself. But in recent memory? Yes, Oklahoma has slipped behind the elite of the SEC for recruits and the rest follows in terms of national championships.
So how do I feel about joining the SEC? I think OU will see an uptick in recruiting, especially on defense, like what Stoops was bringing in during the early 2000's, or like Switzer before him. I don't want to come into the SEC beating my chest like I don't understand what we're letting ourselves in for. It's going to be a much tougher league and we're not going to dominate it like the Big 12. But I do think it's possible that we give ourselves a better chance at national titles. We can certainly be amongst the likes of LSU, Auburn, and Florida in terms of success during the timeline mentioned above.
And Alex Grinch has improved the defense more than many might realize even just in two years. Do we still need to take another step up? Yes, yes we do. But Oklahoma football is one of the top 5 most successful programs in the history of college football and we'll be coming in hot with Lincoln Riley. Many posters are right to say it won't be like the Big 12, but for many programs in the SEC, we'll be closer to playing Alabama than most others.
Boomer Sooner
As stated earlier, the history of Oklahoma football speaks for itself. But in recent memory? Yes, Oklahoma has slipped behind the elite of the SEC for recruits and the rest follows in terms of national championships.
So how do I feel about joining the SEC? I think OU will see an uptick in recruiting, especially on defense, like what Stoops was bringing in during the early 2000's, or like Switzer before him. I don't want to come into the SEC beating my chest like I don't understand what we're letting ourselves in for. It's going to be a much tougher league and we're not going to dominate it like the Big 12. But I do think it's possible that we give ourselves a better chance at national titles. We can certainly be amongst the likes of LSU, Auburn, and Florida in terms of success during the timeline mentioned above.
And Alex Grinch has improved the defense more than many might realize even just in two years. Do we still need to take another step up? Yes, yes we do. But Oklahoma football is one of the top 5 most successful programs in the history of college football and we'll be coming in hot with Lincoln Riley. Many posters are right to say it won't be like the Big 12, but for many programs in the SEC, we'll be closer to playing Alabama than most others.
Boomer Sooner
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:27 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Who in the SEC have they beaten other than Alabama in the Sugar Bowl and arse Tennessee recently
Beaten: Bama,
Auburn,
TN,
FL.
Lost to: 2019 LSU(probably best CFB team ever)
2018 Bama(top 5 CFB team ever)
2017 UGA (double OT)
That’s more impressive than 96% of the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:29 pm to TeLeFaWx
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OU currently recruits like the 6th best team in the SEC. This is what’s so fricking funny
You keep claiming this but it’s technically irrelevant.
Riley won’t recruit large classes for some reason. It’s frustrating.
That being said OU has the 3rd highest Blue chip ratio in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:36 pm to JustinOKC
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8/11 on O and 10/11 starters on D
Not in 2022 you’re not. What you return in 2021 is irrelevant
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:38 pm to lsufball19
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Not in 2022 you’re not. What you return in 2021 is irrelevant
2021 is an NC expectation year for us.
2022 is also an NC expectation year, top 5 class and Caleb Williams at QB after Rattler leaves for the NFL
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:42 pm to lsufball19
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Not in 2022 you’re not. What you return in 2021 is irrelevant
Do you read entire posts or just pick and choose what fits your narrative? I clearly stated we'd have some to rebuild in 2022 but not a full reload.
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