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Tua Tagovailoa Became Soft

Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:18 am
Posted by CAbamafan
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:18 am
Due to all of his injuries. Everyone seems to forget who Tua used to be. Most of his game revolves around his electric mobility, movement in the pocket, and ability to break off and run. So much depends on power from his lower body. With his knee injury and injuring both ankles, he became a shell of his former self. Even still, he was a dominating force, but he was bested by both Fromm and Lawrence.

If you go back and watch the NCG last year, he was a totally different player - spinning away from blitzes, quickly moving in the pocket, popping out of his drop back and using his legs for more zip on his throws. He seemed to be made of mush the last half of this season.

Much of the blame goes to Saban for never allowing him to get to 100% after his initial injury.
As an Alabama fan, I hope that he's able to get back to who he was last year, and that he isn't just an injury-prone player. Hopefully we'll get to see Tua at 100% for a full season.

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This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:20 am to
He was soft against talented D's. He plays street ball, similar to JFF.
Posted by Moot Point
Georgia
Member since Feb 2009
225 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:23 am to
And I hope Saban remains a hardheaded jackass.
Posted by boulwarejockstrap
"The Road Warrior"
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:24 am to
Tua Is soft. Nothing I saw from the NCG would ever leave me to believe he was even a bit “electric”.
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:27 am to
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He was soft against talented D's. He plays street ball, similar to JFF.

He wasn't soft against Georgia last year.

You honestly believe that taking away a dual-threat QBs mobility makes no difference? My point is that people forget that Tua is even a dual-threat guy. The biggest difference was his mobility and electricity in the pocket, and stepping into his throws. He went to the injury tent every single game after his initial knee injury.
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:28 am to
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Tua Is soft. Nothing I saw from the NCG would ever leave me to believe he was even a bit “electric”.

That's the whole point of my post you dumbass. He played Clemson at 80% health. He was healthier vs Oklahoma
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:29 am to
I think he was well protected at the beginning of the year. Your schedule wasn't very hard and your linemen were healthy. As the season went on, wear and tear will tire out those big linemen, so as the competition got stronger, Tua just wasn't protected as well. Just my two cents...
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24449 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:29 am to
Yea he should have rubbed some dirt in that high ankle sprain that required surgery
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:30 am to
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Yea he should have rubbed some dirt in that high ankle sprain that required surgery

Looks like you really missed my point
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:32 am to
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He played Clemson at 80% health.


Yeah because we were soooo all over him all night pounding him into the dirt. I don't think his pants even got a grass stain.
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:35 am to
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Yeah because we were soooo all over him all night pounding him into the dirt. I don't think his pants even got a grass stain.

He played Oklahoma at 85% health, just coming off of ankle surgery. It was crazy he was even able to play at all. You guys just didn't have the team that Clemson had, but he made some pretty grueling runs that left him pretty sore after the game. He had an ankle wrap in the Clemson game
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 10:37 am
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:38 am to
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As the season went on, wear and tear will tire out those big linemen, so as the competition got stronger, Tua just wasn't protected as well. Just my two cents...

As well as our dumbass OC insisting on designed QB runs in blowout games. That's how he injured his knee
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:40 am to
Tua's problem is his accuracy under pressure is totally different compared to when he has a clean pocket. When you have a QB like that, you have to have him stay in the pocket. He has to learn to not force the ball in pressured situations. Everyone wanted to compare him with Patrick Mahomes, but it is not even close.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6283 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:42 am to
That's how you know Tua is the GOAT. He just finished the best season passing of any QB all-time and he can still ascend to another level.

He had a better season passing than every great QB to ever play college football and we all know he can and will do better next season.

We are all witnessing the GOAT.
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:44 am to
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Tua's problem is his accuracy under pressure is totally different compared to when he has a clean pocket. When you have a QB like that, you have to have him stay in the pocket. He has to learn to not force the ball in pressured situations. Everyone wanted to compare him with Patrick Mahomes, but it is not even close.

Again, you're basing this on watching injured Tua - not healthy Tua. He's typically able to use his mobility to avoid pressure, and he's deadly accurate on the run.

This is him last year:
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This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6283 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:46 am to
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Tua's problem is his accuracy under pressure is totally different compared to when he has a clean pocket


This is false and a lazy argument. Tua's best throw in the championship game was when he was flushed from the pocket and hit Juedy on the scramble drill for the big gain.

Tua is elite throwing on schedule to and out of the pocket. He is the most accurate thrower of the ball you have ever seen at any level.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:49 am to
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This is false and a lazy argument. Tua's best throw in the championship game was when he was flushed from the pocket and hit Juedy on the scramble drill for the big gain.

Tua is elite throwing on schedule to and out of the pocket. He is the most accurate thrower of the ball you have ever seen at any level.



He panics when he is under pressure. Even Gray Danielson pointed that out during the SECCG. If you look at last years Championship game, he threw three passes that UGA should have intercepted, they just shite all over themselves.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:51 am to
This is rationalization at it's finest. A bum knee didn't make Tua throw into zone and a pick 6. The kid got by on raw talent for awhile but Venerables showed that he can be confused pretty easily. He progessively looked less and less "electric" because DCs started disguising coverages. He has a great arm but really hasn't improved at understanding the position in over a year, and falls back on his receivers to create space once the play breaks down and then thread the needle to them.
Posted by Mobtro
Daphne, AL
Member since Aug 2012
2598 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:55 am to
Nah, Tua's main issue is he never analyzed secondary options after his pre-snap reads. That's why he was baited into mistakes.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 10:59 am
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:58 am to
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He progessively looked less and less "electric" because DCs started disguising coverages

Ah, yeah, not because he had a giant brace on his knee
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