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Posted on 5/12/16 at 11:52 am to texag7
With a much better surrounding cast. McFadden would have crushed his numbers had he played for Bama.
Henry is a better goal line back...I'll give you that
Henry is a better goal line back...I'll give you that
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:23 pm to skrayper
Pretty much everyone on this entire board thinks herny is a top five SEC running back if we are considering the past ten years. Nobody is discrediting Herny's awards either. In college, he was obe of the greats in the past decade.
Many LSU fans were simply going off topic by saying that LF7's talent would translate better in the NFL
At this point, Herny was a better college running back than LF7 from a statistical stand point. No one can really argue with that. The numbers don't lie.
Many LSU fans were simply going off topic by saying that LF7's talent would translate better in the NFL
At this point, Herny was a better college running back than LF7 from a statistical stand point. No one can really argue with that. The numbers don't lie.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:35 pm to texag7
Texag never watched much McFadden I'm guessing.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:30 pm to hogminer
I do think DMac is the best of the last 10 years, but I also wonder what Henry or Fournette could do (or could have done) if they had the option of handing the ball off to an NFL caliber back like Felix out of the wildcat.
Arkansas held both Henry and Fournette under 100 yards for 2 straight years. I don't get why teams that are built to run allow the defense to focus on one guy.
Why is the wildcat dead? I know it is partly because it takes a substantial commitment to make it work. You can't just trot it out every now and then as a gimmick. I don't think it is because defenses have adjusted to it, especially when you have the personnel an LSU or Bama could use.
Obviously Bama hasn't needed it, but it would have been perfect for LSU given their QB problems the last few years.
Arkansas held both Henry and Fournette under 100 yards for 2 straight years. I don't get why teams that are built to run allow the defense to focus on one guy.
Why is the wildcat dead? I know it is partly because it takes a substantial commitment to make it work. You can't just trot it out every now and then as a gimmick. I don't think it is because defenses have adjusted to it, especially when you have the personnel an LSU or Bama could use.
Obviously Bama hasn't needed it, but it would have been perfect for LSU given their QB problems the last few years.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:55 pm to Walker_Abel
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Dixon was good, not top 5 in past decade though
I don't think you've seen Dixon's career stats.
3994 yds
42 rushing TDs
Dixon is easily in the top 5 in the last decade.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:05 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Dixon is easily in the top 5 in the last decade.
No, he isn't. Compiling more total yards and TDs because he played an extra year doesn't make him better.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:28 pm to RB10
I never said he was a top 5 talent, but Dixon still has more yards than Ingram, when you deduct his freshman numbers.
So to say he's not in the top 5 conversation from 2006-2016 is being a little shortsighted.
So to say he's not in the top 5 conversation from 2006-2016 is being a little shortsighted.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:30 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Dixon still has more yards than Ingram, when you deduct his freshman numbers
Anthony Dixon averaged 4.39 ypc and 10.5 TD per season
Mark Ingram averaged 5.70 ypc and 14.0 TD per season
Contrary to Rant revisionist history, Ingram was a really, really, really good college running back. So was Trent Richardson.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:32 pm to rantfan
Henry is first and we all know that.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Fair enough, but your talking about playing 3 years at Saban's Bama and Dixon playing 2 years at Croom's MSU, when he was the entire offense.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:54 pm to Reservoir dawg
I think Dixon was great. Like I posted above with all the guys, there are 15-20 backs in the last decade in the SEC who were very very good.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:55 pm to GenesChin
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There have been more productive seasons that Moreno. There has been better RB talents than Moreno. There are players with more accolades than Moreno.
It isn't shitting on Moreno but for a two season player, there are better options out there to be top 5.
And therein lies the problems with these threads. I have no problem saying that Gurley was a more talented back than Moreno. But do we use statistics only? Durability? Number of carries? Defenses played against? Their own teams passing attacks to take the heat off?
With no clear cut criteria to go by nobody can say definitively. Gurley was clearly more talented than several on this list, but his stats don't measure up because of injuries and the suspension. The same could be said about Lattimore. He was a GREAT and talented running back.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:06 pm to Reservoir dawg
Dixon isn't even the best MSU back in the timeframe. Vic Ballard is.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:12 pm to cajunbama
I know heauxmie 
I was too
I was too
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:14 pm to cajunbama
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Henry was the best RB in college football last season. Signed Heisman Trophy, Doak Walker, Maxwell Award, and Walter Camp Committees.
Gee, he can join Gino Torretta and Steve Walsh, both of whom won the Heisman for the exact same reason Henry and Ingram did.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:16 pm to Penrod
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Gee, he can join Gino Torretta and Steve Walsh, both of whom won the Heisman for the exact same reason Henry and Ingram did.
Steve Walsh won the Heisman?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 5:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Naw girl, the actual debate is about who is the best backs in the SEC over the past 10 years. It is subjective as it doesn't list any parameters, but you can't go soley off of stats. You can't go off of physical attributes or the NFL combine stats. It is somewhere in between, but I think it would be better to ask what can back abz do that zba can't do.
The debate isn't about who is the better NFL specimen. The debate is about who had a better season last season.
That is why I personally think it is Gurley as he can do stuff that Henry can't, things that Fournette can't, etc. Gurley can do most things that other backs can do.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Steve Walsh won the Heisman?
I thought so. Too lazy to look it up. The point is that a lot of good-but-not-great players have won the Heisman. Neither Henry nor Ingram, for xample, were among the top 10 players the years they won the Heisman.
If you asked Saban if he'd take Fournette or Henry for this years team, he would take Fournette in a second.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 10:51 pm to Penrod
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Neither Henry nor Ingram, for xample, were among the top 10 players
Sounds good
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