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re: Tony Barnhart breaks down the SEC West QB's

Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:21 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:21 am to
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Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:22 am to
ehh.. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Still.. cancelling games shouldn't be that hard for yall.. i.e. Fla St.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:27 am to
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McElroy is a better QB than Mallett. In SEC play here are their stats:

Mallett

139-272 passing for 51%
15 TD's and 6 Int's
2189 yds

McElroy

140-234 passing for 60%
12 TD's and 3 Int's
1723 yds


McElroy had a better completion rate. Mallett had 10 of his TD's against Ga and Miss St. Mallett had double the interceptions, in only 38 more pass attempts.


you guys keep living in that fantasy world and get your stats right...How many rushing TD's did GM have?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:30 am to
quote:

McElroy is a better QB than Mallett. In SEC play here are their stats:

Mallett

139-272 passing for 51%
15 TD's and 6 Int's
2189 yds

McElroy

140-234 passing for 60%
12 TD's and 3 Int's
1723 yds


McElroy had a better completion rate. Mallett had 10 of his TD's against Ga and Miss St. Mallett had double the interceptions, in only 38 more pass attempts.




you guys keep living in that fantasy world and get your stats right...How many rushing TD's did GM have?


He had 1 rushing TD on the entire season. Against North Texas. Those stats above are pure passing SEC stats.
Posted by Slut Hog
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:34 am to
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17-24 for 291 yards and 3 TDs. That was McElroy's stat line for the Arkansas game last season. He kicked ya'lls asses up and down the field.


And Arkansas had the worst pass defense of any team in the league. So McElroy lighting us up isn't anything special. Garcia had a better game against us than McElroy. Hell, so did Joe Cox.

Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:34 am to
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He had 1 rushing TD on the entire season. Against North Texas. Those stats above are pure passing SEC stats.


Malett had rushing TD's against USC-E and Auburn...You got Mallett's TD/INT wrong, so I quit comparing other stats...

Malett throws a ton more long balls than GMac, which leads to the passing percentage discrepency and he is also more of an impact player for our team
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:34 am to
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Hell, so did Joe Cox.


And Jevan Snead
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:35 am to
Is there any unit/position on the Alabama team that is not #1?
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:36 am to
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And Jevan Snead

Says an awful lot about your D
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:37 am to
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Says an awful lot about your D


yeah it says we were lacking experienced playmakers with talent...

Moving Crim to Saftey and 5* Winston at CB should improve our league low passing yards
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:38 am to
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Malett had rushing TD's against USC-E and Auburn...You got Mallett's TD/INT wrong, so I quit comparing other stats...


I didn't include rushing TD's, in a passing comparison.

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Malett throws a ton more long balls than GMac, which leads to the passing percentage discrepency and he is also more of an impact player for our team


Impact player for a team doesn't mean shite when you're comparing QB's. McElroy is a better overall QB, when you compare the two against each other in SEC play. Maybe he shouldn't be throwing long balls, if he can't complete them or throws 2 times as many interceptions than Gmac does. Int's tend to hurt a teams chances at winning ball games.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:40 am to
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Is there any unit/position on the Alabama team that is not #1?


Just pointing out that Mallett isn't the messiah that so many make him out to be. He'll be a good QB, but when you break it down and look at the stats, he's not that much better above anyone else.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:40 am to
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Is there any unit/position on the Alabama team that is not #1?



NCAA compliance office?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:41 am to
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NCAA compliance office?


:rimshot:
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:45 am to
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Is there any unit/position on the Alabama team that is not #1?


And to answer your question..

Not #1 at the following positions..

DB
Kicker
Punter
OL
TE
KR
PR
WR
This post was edited on 8/4/10 at 11:46 am
Posted by Triple6Rebel
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:46 am to
McElroy deserves to be ranked 1st. The motherfricker's never lost a game! But, if my team was down two scores in the fourth quarter I'd rather have Mallet.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:47 am to
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McElroy deserves to be ranked 1st. The motherfricker's never lost a game! But, if my team was down two scores in the fourth quarter I'd rather have Mallet.


McElroy would have you up 3 scores in the fourth
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:49 am to
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Malett had rushing TD's against USC-E and Auburn...You got Mallett's TD/INT wrong, so I quit comparing other stats...


If your argument is "Best QB", you have to take this into account

quote:

Impact player for a team doesn't mean shite when you're comparing QB's. McElroy is a better overall QB, when you compare the two against each other in SEC play. Maybe he shouldn't be throwing long balls, if he can't complete them or throws 2 times as many interceptions than Gmac does. Int's tend to hurt a teams chances at winning ball games.


The nature of our offense is vertical so its common sense that we'll take more shots at the deep routes where he led the nation in plays over 25 yards. Mallett had one interception that could be tied to a loss and that could potentially be LSU...although he led the drive that put us ahead with less than 2 minutes
Posted by Triple6Rebel
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:50 am to
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McElroy would have you up 3 scores in the fourth


With help from a merciless D and two mutant running backs. They whooped our azz that day!
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 11:52 am to
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Malett had rushing TD's against USC-E and Auburn...You got Mallett's TD/INT wrong, so I quit comparing other stats...




If your argument is "Best QB", you have to take this into account


Ok.. fine. Add 2 Td's to his total and 1 to Gmac. Doesn't change the INT's or completion percentages.

quote:

The nature of our offense is vertical so its common sense that we'll take more shots at the deep routes where he led the nation in plays over 25 yards. Mallett had one interception that could be tied to a loss and that could potentially be LSU...although he led the drive that put us ahead with less than 2 minutes


Move the ball all you want, but when you have 6 SEC games, where your QB only tosses for 1 TD or less, and has a TD/INT ratio of 7 Tds to 6 Int's, then he's not being effective. Move all the ball you want, but when you turn it over and don't score, you don't help the team.
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