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re: Tony Barbee has been fired

Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:57 am to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22366 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:57 am to
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Take Tennessee, easily a 5+ seed lock if Martin wasn't trying to make race horses into plow horses as an example.


couldn't agree more.... with their starting five, there is no excuse for not having a tournament berth wrapped up by the first week of Feb... their style of play is terrible to watch and handcuffs its players.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:59 am to
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Auburn is in a good recruiting spot. They can raid the heck out of Atlanta with the right guy. Solid players come out of Alabama all the time as well.

No reason that program can't be a solid one.

Get a coach who gets up and down the floor that let's his players play. Run baby run. Screw trying to play in sets and scoring 50-60 a game.


Auburn's in a horrible position. While geographically we are in a good spot overall we are in a bad one. UA is a problem as well as the AAU ban that is causing issues and the fact our AD doesn't understand every basketball program out there is dirty period end of story, if you want to run a clean basketball program you are going to have to accept the fact you will suck.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22366 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
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I'm wondering if someone else got a hold of denton's password.


it's b/c if the SEC were as strong as it was 10 years ago, arkansas wouldn't need two wins in ATL to make the tournament...
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70178 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
Coaching change threads on this board tend to be pretty civil overall for some reason.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:02 pm to
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if you want to run a clean basketball program you are going to have to accept the fact you will suck.


Fine by me. Lets suck. But NOT in Football.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Auburn's in a horrible position. While geographically we are in a good spot overall we are in a bad one. UA is a problem as well as the AAU ban that is causing issues and the fact our AD doesn't understand every basketball program out there is dirty period end of story, if you want to run a clean basketball program you are going to have to accept the fact you will suck.


You make it out to be worse than it is in reality, going to Nike isn't going to fix the problems.

What Auburn has to realize is there is not quick fix for Auburn, yes, some major programs can sign talent good enough to turn things around in less than 3 years, but Auburn is not one of these programs.

Arkansas had a AAU issue, Nolan wouldn't play their games, got into it with a HS in the process, and as a result players were steered to programs other than Arkansas, mainly Ole Miss.

Nolan went out and got athletes from other areas (Louisiana, Texas, Kansas City, etc) who were as good if not better than the instate guys but did not have the AAU baggage. If the recruiting rankins existed back then he would have replaced instate 4*s with out of state 2-3*s, the talent was as good and perfect for what he wanted to do, Arkansas was a solid tourney team, other issues held them back after 96, mainly a witch hunt by the NCAA.

Look at our roster, Clarke is a very good player who never should of gotten out of Alabama, either Bama or Auburn should have got him from Birmingham. Jacory Williams is a great athlete who should develop into a solid player by his junior year, again taken from Birmingham.

Birmingham, Atlanta, and Florida are good enough talent pools for Auburn to find players good enough to make it to the tourney and be a solid contender without having to play the AAU games of the highly rated players.

It will take coaching, but Auburn isn't a place where recruiting is 90% of the job like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 12:08 pm to
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it's b/c if the SEC were as strong as it was 10 years ago, arkansas wouldn't need two wins in ATL to make the tournament...



This is true, if more casual fans were to watch the games and enjoy them, the perception of the league would be better.

The SEC is not as bad as they say from a competitive stand point, there are plenty of solid teams in the league.

However, there is no excuse for it to be "as bad" as it is from top to bottom after being so solid in the 90s where it was a top3 league.
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