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re: Tommy Tubberville is a better coach than Gus Malzhan
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:33 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:33 pm to cardboardboxer
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Tubby just got lazy with recruiting
well that too . but the majority of folks were getting annoyed and tired of hearing is tubs going to be the new Hc of Arky. Nebraska. A&M. LSU. Miami. etc the same question usually popped a week or two before the iron bowl whenever there was a team that still needed a new HC just so he could get a new fat paycheck for himself and the bbq gang. maybe it was just his way of trolling guys like lowder. dye and raines. but you have to admit hearing is your Hc going to be the new hc of so and so 24/7 can get pretty annoying.
not gonna lie we had some of the best Defenses when he was here I'm one the few that believe he placed a jinx on our football program so we'd never have anything close to a good D again
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:34 pm to rockiee
Depends on which Auburn fan you ask.
USC beat Auburn two years in a row and fairly convincingly in the two seasons prior to 2004. Oklahoma was also undefeated with an exciting offense and they never let up after shutting out Texas for the longhorn's only loss that season.
Auburn wouldn't have beat that USC team anyway
USC beat Auburn two years in a row and fairly convincingly in the two seasons prior to 2004. Oklahoma was also undefeated with an exciting offense and they never let up after shutting out Texas for the longhorn's only loss that season.
Auburn wouldn't have beat that USC team anyway
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:34 pm to DuncanIdaho
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Of course I think he did.
It is a little bit of a wash then when it comes to the NC appearance.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:34 pm to WG_Dawg
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No he didn't get screwed
There's no way an SEC team should go undefeated and not get a chance to play for the NC.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:35 pm to TheJones
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Auburn wouldn't have beat that USC team anyway
Not saying that but neither did Gus so they are a little even in that department.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:36 pm to TheJones
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USC beat Auburn two years in a row and fairly convincingly
They beat us by a TD out in LA. It came down to late in the 4th quarter. 2003 was worse than it appeared on the scoreboard.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:38 pm to rockiee
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Not saying that but neither did Gus so they are a little even in that department
It took a lot of teams to fall the last couple of weeks for us to get the chance in 2013 so yes. And I do think Tubs is the better coach from what I've seen so far, but it' still a little early to tell.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:38 pm to BoomNation
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but the majority of folks were getting annoyed and tired of hearing is tubs going to be the new Hc of Arky. Nebraska. A&M. LSU. Miami. etc the same question usually popped a week or two before the iron bowl whenever there was a team that still needed a new HC just so he could get a new fat paycheck for himself and the bbq gang.
How is that different than Saban going to Texas? Success always breeds that kind go crap.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:38 pm to rockiee
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Didn't Tommy get a little screwed on that deal though?
No the preseason top 2 went undefeated. Nobody deserved to jump them. Just bad luck based on the system in place at the time. Nobody got screwed.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:40 pm to cardboardboxer
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How is that different than Saban going to Texas?
I think Sexton is the agent for both of them but I feel like Tuberville encouraged those rumors be leaked where I don't think that Saban does.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:40 pm to rockiee
It's tough to compare the two IMO
Tuberville benefited from easier roads to the SEC. We're talking about a time when Arkansas (no offense) wasn't typically really tough, Mississippi state and ole miss were doormats, and Alabama was going through 20 head coaches named Mike. LSU was our only consistent challenger for the west.
While I cherish those years as a football fan and a fan of the SEC it's impossible not to notice that the SECW is on another level now.
Tuberville benefited from easier roads to the SEC. We're talking about a time when Arkansas (no offense) wasn't typically really tough, Mississippi state and ole miss were doormats, and Alabama was going through 20 head coaches named Mike. LSU was our only consistent challenger for the west.
While I cherish those years as a football fan and a fan of the SEC it's impossible not to notice that the SECW is on another level now.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:41 pm to Aman
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No the preseason top 2 went undefeated. Nobody deserved to jump them. Just bad luck based on the system in place at the time. Nobody got screwed.
I guess screwed wasn't the right word but in many other years he would have gone and he did about as much as he could have at the time.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:41 pm to DuncanIdaho
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I think Sexton is the agent for both of them but I feel like Tuberville encouraged those rumors be leaked where I don't think that Saban does.
Well Saban is the highest paid coach in the sport. Was Tubs back in his time?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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Was Tubs back in his time?
He was probably a top-10 but definitely not the highest.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:43 pm to DuncanIdaho
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There's no way an SEC team should go undefeated and not get a chance to play for the NC
The #1 and #2 ranked teams also went undefeated all year in P5 conferences. There was no way to bump either.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:43 pm to TheJones
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It's tough to compare the two IMO
I agree, you should look at all the factors and the west was easier back then
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:44 pm to DuncanIdaho
My main point was that Auburn played USC twice in the years previous to that matchup and the preseason 1 & 2 were on a collision course to a media fapfest.
Needed a win in the previous two years to create intrigue in the game
Needed a win in the previous two years to create intrigue in the game
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:44 pm to DuncanIdaho
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He was probably a top-10 but definitely not the highest.
That makes a big difference IMHO.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:45 pm to Aman
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Just bad luck
that's really all it is. And yeah it really sucked for AU, I"m not even making fun of them for it since they had a stellar team that year. But I mean, what could be done? USC and OU started 1 and 2 and went undefeated too. It was just a really unfortunate scenario and the only time we saw it during the BCS era. It just so happens it was AU on the short end of the draw. I would feel the same if it were USC or OU that got left out too.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:47 pm to cardboardboxer
Tuberville learned his early coaching mistakes at Ole Miss. Saban learned his early coaching mistakes at Mich State. Gus is really in his first cycle and its hard to judge. Can Gus learn, adapt and improve - only the future will determine who is the better coach.
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