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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:40 pm to wadewilson
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You're a douche.
Because I think LSU's defense has been better than its offense the last couple of seasons? Or for another reason?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:41 pm to Hugh McElroy
Did you get that from TexAgs? 
Total offense and total defense stats are bogus. Go check out the 3rd down conversion rate for the offense in 2013 and go check out the last defensive drives vs Georgia and vs Ole Miss to see all you know about Chavis' playcalling.
Total offense and total defense stats are bogus. Go check out the 3rd down conversion rate for the offense in 2013 and go check out the last defensive drives vs Georgia and vs Ole Miss to see all you know about Chavis' playcalling.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:41 pm to rmnldr
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The Kevin Steele thread was deleted. Discussing the LSU DC is not allowed here on the rant drippings.
It's called flaming, asshat.
Posting any facts about Kevin Steele's coaching history seems to qualify as flaming.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I've watched LSU plenty and I've never once thought I was watching a team with an offensive unit better than their defense.
We play big boy football not gimmick high school ball. Thats why we beat that arse like a drum every year. Only a select few teams that play your ghey style have a chance to beat us
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:42 pm to Hugh McElroy
It had no point or substance. I guess you don't understand that though with your Aggie education.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:42 pm to TeLeFaWx
eh, you were correct on the rankings. Fair point. I've never been one to bash Chavis' defenses anyways. But 2013 the defense cost LSU the UGA game (gave up 41) and a combo of Mett and the defense cost us the Ole Miss game. And Bama hung 38 on us. The bama and UGA games were exceptionally bad on defense.
The offense put up 30+ in 10 different games that year and single handedly won the TCU and Auburn games.
The offense put up 30+ in 10 different games that year and single handedly won the TCU and Auburn games.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:44 pm to rmnldr
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Total offense and total defense stats are bogus.
Totally. Who the fricks cares how much your offense moves the ball, or how often your defense stops it? Totally meaningless.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:45 pm to Hugh McElroy
So, when is A&M going to address the fact that they're offense sputtered quite a bit last year? I thought Sumlin was an offensive genius? What changes this year?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:45 pm to cas4t
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eh, you were correct on the rankings. Fair point. I've never been one to bash Chavis' defenses anyways. But 2013 the defense cost LSU the UGA game (gave up 41) and a combo of Mett and the defense cost us the Ole Miss game. And Bama hung 38 on us. The bama and UGA games were exceptionally bad on defense.
The offense put up 30+ in 10 different games that year and single handedly won the TCU and Auburn games.
this, which is why it gets really old hearing the line "how did a team with mett, landry, obj, and hill" lose 3 games kind of like an insinuation miles held them back. well, in 2 of the three games they showed up, but the defense didn't at all
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:46 pm to Aggie_2463
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I see you neglected the actual statistics and facts in my post, therefore, it must be a perception nickname then. Thank you, that's what I figured. Butt hurt fans like to do that.
You like stats? Here's a stat:
3rd Down Conversion Rate against Chavis (At LSU) was NEVER ranked higher than his Scoring, Total, Passing, or rushing defense. In short, 3rd down defense is the weakest part of his scheme.
That's where he got the name from, idiot.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:46 pm to Hugh McElroy
Yeah because you're comparing it to EVERY TEAM IN THE NATION instead of the teams that they played. When it comes to situational football and winning games, LSU still does that better than A&M and will continue to do that.
ETA: Sooner or later tbird will be in here to post laughing emojis and exclaim how great the Aggies are at trolling.
Pathetic.
ETA: Sooner or later tbird will be in here to post laughing emojis and exclaim how great the Aggies are at trolling.
Pathetic.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:47 pm to rmnldr
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Total offense and total defense stats are bogus. Go check out the 3rd down conversion rate for the offense in 2013 and go check out the last defensive drives vs Georgia and vs Ole Miss to see all you know about Chavis' playcalling.
Overall stats aren't what matters, a couple cherry picked stats are what matter.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:47 pm to cardboardboxer
I think both LSU fans and A&M fans are missing some important elements in this discussion.
I honestly think that Chavis will be an upgrade by simplification. Coach O and Steele combine to instantly improve the lack of recruiting by the previous staff in their spots. These points are both made over and over by both fan bases and I agree with them both.
The biggest issues that I see that aren't being addressed in these discussions ::
1. S&C
2. Culture
If anyone wants to point to a critical component of ALL of LSUs success on D despite various DCs - it comes down to those two elements. Moffitt and his staff are simply outstanding and the strides made by LSU players in their S&C as they come in are tremendous. HUGE. This has played an integral role in LSUs ability to play younger guys in bigger spots than a lot of teams in the country. A&M has a great nickname in Black Death - but his results to this point aren't clear, at best, and certainly aren't an asset on the level of Moffit and LSU.
Culture. LSU is a defensive football team. They live and breath attitude, hate, effort, speed, violence. The way they run their camps, the way they approach the offseason - the things they sell recruits. It's hard. It's tough. It's mean. Sumlin has a soft culture. He's party and swagger. He's cool and fun. It works like a fricking charm and with it he is reeling in some serious talent, but it also has it's downsides and the team culture has an impact on the defensive side.
I honestly think that Chavis will be an upgrade by simplification. Coach O and Steele combine to instantly improve the lack of recruiting by the previous staff in their spots. These points are both made over and over by both fan bases and I agree with them both.
The biggest issues that I see that aren't being addressed in these discussions ::
1. S&C
2. Culture
If anyone wants to point to a critical component of ALL of LSUs success on D despite various DCs - it comes down to those two elements. Moffitt and his staff are simply outstanding and the strides made by LSU players in their S&C as they come in are tremendous. HUGE. This has played an integral role in LSUs ability to play younger guys in bigger spots than a lot of teams in the country. A&M has a great nickname in Black Death - but his results to this point aren't clear, at best, and certainly aren't an asset on the level of Moffit and LSU.
Culture. LSU is a defensive football team. They live and breath attitude, hate, effort, speed, violence. The way they run their camps, the way they approach the offseason - the things they sell recruits. It's hard. It's tough. It's mean. Sumlin has a soft culture. He's party and swagger. He's cool and fun. It works like a fricking charm and with it he is reeling in some serious talent, but it also has it's downsides and the team culture has an impact on the defensive side.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:48 pm to rmnldr
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I guess you don't understand that though with your Aggie education.
Ok I think he's just making joke posts now. This can't be real.Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:49 pm to golfclap
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Culture. LSU is a defensive football team. They live and breath attitude, hate, effort, speed, violence. The way they run their camps, the way they approach the offseason - the things they sell recruits. It's hard. It's tough. It's mean. Sumlin has a soft culture. He's party and swagger. He's cool and fun. It works like a fricking charm and with it he is reeling in some serious talent, but it also has it's downsides and the team culture has an impact on the defensive side.
Chinese Bandits > Wrecking Crew
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This can't be real.
Very real! Just as real as being winless vs LSU in SEC play!
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:50 pm to Projectpat
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Overall stats aren't what matters, a couple cherry picked stats are what matter.
no holding onto 4th quarter leads is what's important. chavis succeeded at about a 50% clip in games decided by one possession when he had a lead
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:50 pm to MightyYat
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So, when is A&M going to address the fact that they're offense sputtered quite a bit last year? I thought Sumlin was an offensive genius? What changes this year?
That's true. We dropped all the way back to about the productivity of the 2013 LSU offense, the best LSU offense of this generation.
Hopefully, the fact that we had a true freshmen QB (who happened to be the MVP of the bowl game) and 8 returning starters will help correct the slide. I think hiring Dave Christenson this off season is going to pay significant dividends. We've got to run the ball better, like 2 years ago when we led the SEC in rush offense.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:51 pm to Hugh McElroy
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We dropped all the way back to about the productivity of the 2013 LSU offense, the best LSU offense of this generation
Sorry that we are a complete team that doesn't need to run air raid no huddle to score points and win games.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:51 pm to MightyYat
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So, when is A&M going to address the fact that they're offense sputtered quite a bit last year? I thought Sumlin was an offensive genius? What changes this year?
If an offensive staff/scheme is "sputtering" while still in the top 30, I think we'll take it.
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