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Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:36 pm to DaleDenton
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It is and its availability in Missouri is the largest thing I like about the state.
I'm in Joplin, lived in Missouri since 1998 and I've NEVER heard of FRIES with MAYONNAISE, WTF. Is that a KC or STL thing, it's not common in Springfield, Joplin, or Branson.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:37 pm to Porker Face
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If you think we are talking about the Civil War when we say you aren't a cultural fit for the SEC, it just proves the point.
The ever so popular quoting a small part of an argument and ignoring the rest of the context.
No, if you've followed along the Civil War is not the only reason we're a cultural fit.
The majority of Missouri (from mid Missouri down) is the Ozarks. The Ozarks runs into Arkansas and is basically one region. If there was no state line that would just be one common region.
So unless you don't consider Arkansas a cultural fit, then I'm missing something.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:37 pm to Duckie
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Try to justify your southerness on the SEC rant, you're gonna have a bad time.
I know, that's what I was trying to gently tell the OP.
For myself personally, I don't feel the need to justify my southernness - I know what and where my roots are, and embraced my southern culture as a child. Missouri as a state is mixed with a lean to southern culture. It is what it is.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:38 pm to Porker Face
This is an excerpt from the article about the Australian trolling victim:
Dawson said it was the relentless and vicious messages that finally broke her.
"It just triggered that feeling of helplessness when the trolls got to me,'' Dawson said. "The trolls got the better of me and they won.''
Following the Twitter troll attack, Dawson took a handfull of pills and attempted suicide that evening.
Dawson said it was the relentless and vicious messages that finally broke her.
"It just triggered that feeling of helplessness when the trolls got to me,'' Dawson said. "The trolls got the better of me and they won.''
Following the Twitter troll attack, Dawson took a handfull of pills and attempted suicide that evening.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:40 pm to semotruman
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I know, that's what I was trying to gently tell the OP.
For myself personally, I don't feel the need to justify my southernness - I know what and where my roots are, and embraced my southern culture as a child. Missouri as a state is mixed with a lean to southern culture. It is what it is.
I'm not trying to justify my southerness. This whole things started by my wish that Missouri fans wouldn't put thinks like 'yankeeville' as their location just to upset people.
But so be it, I'm off to finish a book on the deck and get some sun while I can.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:40 pm to mograyback
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Stop the nonsense man.
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The Civil War is the Civil War.
Southern Culture is not defined by the civil war however. There has been a lot of things that have gone on in the south as far as their culture since the Civil War 150 years ago.
I think the telling thing is that in order for Missouri fans to "justify" being southern it always goes back to the Civil War as a reference and that is somewhat telling quite honestly and reeks of trying to fit in.
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How does it reek of trying to fit in? At the very minimum the official soldiers were 50-50 (according to you). And the back stories are all in favor of the Confederacy. The unofficial militias and guerillas. The 10 year war with Kansas, Quintrill, Jesse James.. that is all Confederate stuff man. So I'm not sure how it 'reeks' when trying to fit in.
Missouri is not 'sweet tea south', but it is an extremely independent minded state that favored the Confederacy in the Civil War. I'm sure you don't like that, but its the way it was. And the Ozark region is one with Arkansas, remove the state line and it is one common region.
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I was born in Greeneville TN. I have family in TN and Florida. I have nothing against the South at all. I love the south.
I am just being honest.
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Funny how you went back and quoted something from multiple posts back between us... why didn't you quote from our most recent discussion?
Missouri was/is a mixed state.. but the slant was in favor of the Confederacy. Sorry.
Stop the nonsense man.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:42 pm to mograyback
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The ever so popular quoting a small part of an argument and ignoring the rest of the context.
No, if you've followed along the Civil War is not the only reason we're a cultural fit.
The majority of Missouri (from mid Missouri down) is the Ozarks. The Ozarks runs into Arkansas and is basically one region. If there was no state line that would just be one common region.
So unless you don't consider Arkansas a cultural fit, then I'm missing something.
True. The Ozarks is a region like lets say "Acadiana" in Louisiana. People in the Ozarks share the same culture, geography, beliefs, traditions, history, etc.
ETA: The word is also used a lot to distinguish the region from other parts of the state.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:42 pm to semotruman
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For myself personally, I don't feel the need to justify my southernness - I know what and where my roots are, and embraced my southern culture as a child. Missouri as a state is mixed with a lean to southern culture. It is what it is.
Exactly. Well said as usual SEMO.
You are who you are and how you were raised.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:44 pm to mizzoukills
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mizzoukills
I'd want to down a bottle of pills if every new poster from my fanbase felt the need to come on here guns blazing with Civil War info too. There's a hotline for that, Kills
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:44 pm to bayou2003
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True. The Ozarks is a region like lets say "Acadiana" in Louisiana. People in the Ozarks share the same culture, geography, beliefs, traditions, history, etc.
Yes, but Arkansas also has regions that mirror Mississippi and Louisiana as far as geography, wealth, and education.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:47 pm to mograyback
Interesting. When it helps you look Southern, you claim the Ozarks are great. But when it comes to flaming Arkansas, NWA is nothing but a bunch of banjo playing rednecks compared to the cosmopolitan cultural mecca of Missouri. Hypocrisy just par for the course I guess
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:48 pm to Porker Face
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I'd want to down a bottle of pills if every new poster from my fanbase felt the need to come on here guns blazing with Civil War info too. There's a hotline for that, Kills
They probably do that because people don't know the difference between "yankee" and "southerner". Missouri is the complete opposite of Kansas and Illinois unless you're in the STL or KC areas because of the mixture of the population base. Other than that there's nothing "northern" about Missouri. It's nothing like Nebraska, Kansas, etc. I've lived in Missouri and Kansas and from Louisiana, believe me Missouri is "southern" in it's beliefs, values, history, etc.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:50 pm to DaleDenton
This topic will probably never go away.
To my fellow Mizzou fans I would simply say - realize how stupid many of the people on this website seem. Whether they act dumb on purpose or not is irrelevant.
The Rant gets full marks for trolling but the SEC clearly has the absolute worst fans in the country.
Growing up in the heart of the Missouri/kansas Border War I will say I have no problems whatsoever exchanging fists with jayhawk fans but I would not root for our players to purposefully maim/injure the kids who were dumb enough to enroll at ku.
These SEC people not only root for injuries, but seem to have some uncontrollable fetish with anal penetration.
To my fellow Mizzou fans I would simply say - realize how stupid many of the people on this website seem. Whether they act dumb on purpose or not is irrelevant.
The Rant gets full marks for trolling but the SEC clearly has the absolute worst fans in the country.
Growing up in the heart of the Missouri/kansas Border War I will say I have no problems whatsoever exchanging fists with jayhawk fans but I would not root for our players to purposefully maim/injure the kids who were dumb enough to enroll at ku.
These SEC people not only root for injuries, but seem to have some uncontrollable fetish with anal penetration.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:51 pm to DaleDenton
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Yes, but Arkansas also has regions that mirror Mississippi and Louisiana as far as geography, wealth, and education.
Southeast Missouri is very similar to Mississippi. The Ozarks are very similar to Appalachia.
Missouri is a big state with a lot of people. The degree to which you think it's "southern" depends largely on where you live. It's all relative. To someone from Wisconsin, the whole state is southern. To someone from Tennessee, the northern half of Missouri would seem northern, while the southern half would feel pretty close to home.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:51 pm to Quantrill
Please log out and never return. Problem solved 
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:52 pm to Porker Face
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But when it comes to flaming Arkansas, NWA is nothing but a bunch of banjo playing rednecks compared to the cosmopolitan cultural mecca of Missouri.
People in KC and STL sometimes feel that way about people in Southern Missouri. A lot of people from KC or STL will tell you Southern Missouri is the country, redneck, hunting, confederate flag, racist, backwoods, folks.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:52 pm to Porker Face
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When it helps you look Southern, you claim the Ozarks are great. But when it comes to flaming Arkansas, NWA is nothing but a bunch of banjo playing rednecks compared to the cosmopolitan cultural mecca of Missouri. Hypocrisy just par for the course I guess
Hold on a second. Did everyone just see what Porker Face did there?
He admitted that Southwest Missouri and Northwest Arkansas are one and the same. Which means that by his logic, Missouri (if only a portion) is indeed southern.
Check mate.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:53 pm to mograyback
mograyback: I actually started out on this board with posts extremely, extremely similar to yours.
I hope 8 pages later you now realize that shite falls on deaf ears.
The People of the SEC Rant Want to be able to call us Yankees.
They like it.
It makes them smile.
Be a Man of the People.
Give the People what they Want.
Rather than invest so much time, thought and energy into a well articulated, historically and demographically accurate analysis that is only gonng get a flood of one word responses on here saying "TL;DR" or a colored graph with coke bottles on it or some such shite...just go with the flow.
If it makes you too uncomfortable, just remember that from the outside looking in, all Americans are in a sense Yankees. The Brits call us all Yanks. They don't care which part of the country we're from.
You need to embrace your inner Yankee.
And for the record I had a great great great grandad who lived on a hill in Western MO and served as the town lookout to warn them when jayhawkers were riding in to pillage and plunder. My own bloodlines point straight to the southern ties our state has that you refer to.
But you see, the Rant gives nary a flying frick about truth or history.
It snows where we come from. And we actually like basketball. Thus we are Yanks. That's it.
Learn it. Live it. Love it.
mograyback, Yankee avenger. It sounds kinda cool, you know.
I hope 8 pages later you now realize that shite falls on deaf ears.
The People of the SEC Rant Want to be able to call us Yankees.
They like it.
It makes them smile.
Be a Man of the People.
Give the People what they Want.
Rather than invest so much time, thought and energy into a well articulated, historically and demographically accurate analysis that is only gonng get a flood of one word responses on here saying "TL;DR" or a colored graph with coke bottles on it or some such shite...just go with the flow.
If it makes you too uncomfortable, just remember that from the outside looking in, all Americans are in a sense Yankees. The Brits call us all Yanks. They don't care which part of the country we're from.
You need to embrace your inner Yankee.
And for the record I had a great great great grandad who lived on a hill in Western MO and served as the town lookout to warn them when jayhawkers were riding in to pillage and plunder. My own bloodlines point straight to the southern ties our state has that you refer to.
But you see, the Rant gives nary a flying frick about truth or history.
It snows where we come from. And we actually like basketball. Thus we are Yanks. That's it.
Learn it. Live it. Love it.
mograyback, Yankee avenger. It sounds kinda cool, you know.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:54 pm to mizzoukills
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Check mate.
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