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Time for me to complain about the NET Rankings again

Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29542 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:27 am
Look, even if you do agree with the ridiculous quadrant system, this shite makes no sense.

Georgia picked up a Quad I win last night, but only moved from 82 to 78.

Here is UGA’s team sheet:




Now check out some teams ahead of them:

Bradley (#75)



Washington (#71)



Florida(#55)




See how UGA ranks in other metrics:

RPI: 24
KPI: 37
Strength of Record: 42
ELO: 57
KenPom: 65
Torvik: 67
NET: 78

Seems like a broken system to me.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
52907 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:49 am to
There's tournament teams and then suckage. If you're not in the first category, your team blows.
Posted by theRealJesseD
Member since Nov 2021
4187 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:20 am to
Patience grasshopper
Posted by Captain Falcon
Member since Apr 2020
776 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:21 am to
Still early and the data is still catching up on various teams. Keep winning and it will take care of itself.
Posted by Waysider Biscuits
Member since Jan 2024
19 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:59 am to
It is a very bad system. Too reliant on team quality and not enough on resume.
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Look, even if you do agree with the ridiculous quadrant system, this shite makes no sense.


One Quad 1 win, that's one less than LSU. Pretty simple.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29542 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:05 am to
quote:

It is a very bad system. Too reliant on team quality and not enough on resume.


Yep. At the end of a 34 game season, who cares which teams have the highest offensive rebounding rate or turnover percentage?

It should be entirely about who you beat and who you lost to.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96683 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:09 am to
My biggest complaint is it rewards teams too much for a tough schedule even if you lose those games.

For example Team A could have played 6 Quad 1 games and be 1-5 in them and overall be 15-7 with a 2-1 record in Quad 2 and undefeated in Q3/4.

Team B could be 19-3 with a 2-2 Quad 1 record, 5-1 Q2 and undefeated in Q3/4

Team A most times would have a higher NET.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29542 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:13 am to
quote:

My biggest complaint is it rewards teams too much for a tough schedule even if you lose those games.


That’s exactly what’s going on with Florida right now.

They are 0-5 in Q1 and their best win is a neutral site game vs PITT but they are #55. Crazy stuff


UGA has 4 wins better than UF’s best win and UF’s worst loss is worse than UGA’s worst loss.

Yet UF is 23 spots ahead
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:19 am
Posted by Waysider Biscuits
Member since Jan 2024
19 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:13 am to
There are a few sites out there where you can play with things and build your own ranking. I think most of the time those look better than what the NET does.
Posted by Waysider Biscuits
Member since Jan 2024
19 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:16 am to
The Bart Torvik t-ranketology site lets you do it. If you make one where you only make the bracket based on wins over q1 and q2 and take away points for losses to q3 and q4 then it looks a lot different than most of the internet bloggers bracketologies. 2 tennessee, 7 alabama, 7 texas am, 8 mississippi state, 8 ole miss, 9 auburn, 10 georgia, 11 south carolina, 11 kentucky.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5321 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:26 am to
Doesn't NET focus on other things rather than outcome? I think that's the disconnect here.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:39 am to
Rpi>net
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9519 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:40 am to
They could make the tourney 200 teams and team 201 would still be bitching
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29542 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Rpi>net


So true it’s not even funny
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:09 pm to
Can we get an update on Georgia’s NET vs RPI?
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
4149 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Can we get an update on Georgia’s NET vs RPI?

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