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re: This Years Playoff is Only Going to Increase the Cost of Transfer Quarterbacks
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:15 am to captdalton
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:15 am to captdalton
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How much higher do you think NFL salaries need to rise before a wealthy booster says “screw it, I want that guy even if it costs $10 million”?
I'd say that the draftees' salaries need to rise a lot more than guys already on their 2nd deal.
You are comparing apples to oranges...according to Spotrac the AAV of a 2nd rd draft pick topped out at about $3 million. It's not perfect, but the top 5 draftees are the only ones getting an AAV over $10 million & they would be waiting a year to reach that $50 million a year QB contract.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:17 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Pretty sure that is the definition of just grabbing a guy out of the portal.
Now do Tennessee, Missouri, Auburn, Mississippi State, and Kentucky.
For every Chambliss, there are multiple Arnolds and Calzadas.
Like I said, it has to be the right guy. And now it is going to cost even more to make the bet.
That was my whole point of this thread - the cost of transfer quarterbacks just went up.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:18 am to captdalton
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I think I was clear. That all the quarterbacks left playing are in their 1st or 2nd year at their school. You said 1st and 2nd year players don’t win championships. This year it is inevitable.
Three of them are in the their 3rd year plus of college football. You think a 23 year old who has played 4 years of college ball and transfers is the same as a 19 year old first time starter?
Dumb Dumb.
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My second point was that I do think Ty Simpson will leave Alabama. But not for the reason you imply. And I disagree with you that he will throw for 4,000 yards - that is very rare for a NFL rookie only 5 have ever done it.
I bet you money you want Keelon Russell starting at BAMA next year.
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My third point was that throw away quarterbacks, as you called last year’s Ohio State starter, don’t end up on NFL rosters.
You're retarded. Dan Orlovsky STARTED NFL games. There are so many trash qbs in the NFL it isn't even funny.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:20 am to captdalton
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Now do Tennessee, Missouri, Auburn, Mississippi State, and Kentucky.
For every Chambliss, there are multiple Arnolds and Calzadas.
Just because you can point to older transfer qbs not winning doesn't mean that an older qb isnt the winning formula. Not all teams can win dumb dumb. That's the nature of the game. There are winners and losers.
Just look at this year or any of the last natties all the way back to 2019 and you'll see a trend.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:23 am to Stidham8
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I’m glad Auburn is bringing in a proven guy like Brown from USF to play QB next season instead of rolling the dice on Deuce Knight who may or may not be a good QB.
Best thing they could have done. Let Knight be somebody else's NIL albatross.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 am to Bigdawgb
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You are comparing apples to oranges...according to Spotrac the AAV of a 2nd rd draft pick topped out at about $3 million.
At least 8 college quarterbacks received more than $3 million this season. Schools aren’t just competing against the NFL to keep a quarterback, they are competing against other schools. You as a Georgia fan should understand that. If Chambliss is granted an extra year of eligibility so will Ole Miss fans.
The biggest threat to schools with a quality QB is other rich boosters. Somebody like a rich Texas oil baw, Mark Cuban, Jimmy Haslem, Todd Graves, Phil Knight, Larry Fink, etc., etc. If someone to whom $10 million is pocket change decides he wants your QB hard decisions will have to be made.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:32 am to captdalton
Recruiting QBs may be a thing of the past for many teams. Why would you pay big money to QB to develop him for 2-3 years...when you can just let some other team do it and steal him when he proves he can play
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:34 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Just because you can point to older transfer qbs not winning doesn't mean that an older qb isnt the winning formula
Did you not read my original post?
It says every single quarterback left is a transfer QB.
It is pretty clear getting the right transfer QB is a road to success. But it has to be the right guy.
But it isn’t a sure thing. Saban banked on Drake Maye transferring to Alabama, that was his QB succession plan. But Alabama did not make the winning bid.
Why do you keep arguing against the very thing you are arguing for?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:36 am to scottydoesntknow
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Recruiting QBs may be a thing of the past for many teams. Why would you pay big money to QB to develop him for 2-3 years...when you can just let some other team do it and steal him when he proves he can play
I think you'll see this. I've said this in other threads, but it's already happening in basketball to an extent.
UF won the title last season on the back of an upperclassmen transfer. The Best player, Flagg, came up short and was one and done. Who helped their team more?
Who was the last qb under 21 to win a natty?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:36 am to scottydoesntknow
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Recruiting QBs may be a thing of the past for many teams. Why would you pay big money to QB to develop him for 2-3 years...when you can just let some other team do it and steal him when he proves he can play
I think you'll see this. I've said this in other threads, but it's already happening in basketball to an extent.
UF won the title last season on the back of an upperclassmen transfer. The Best player, Flagg, came up short and was one and done. Who helped their team more?
Who was the last qb under 21 to win a natty as a starter?
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:39 am to captdalton
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Why do you keep arguing against the very thing you are arguing for?
I'm not.
I am pointing out the trends I see.
You think Carson Beck is a 1st year starter.
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It is pretty clear getting the right transfer QB
Not transfer qbs. Older qbs. They don't have to be transfers. Not in my opinion. It's just working out that way because these guys who aren't good enough to get drafted after their third year typically have to play their early years at Cal Berkeley and KSSt to prove they can play and then transfer to a championship caliber team.
Why didn't Cignetti recruit Fernando Mendoza to JMU?
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:41 am
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:42 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Dan Orlovsky STARTED NFL games. There are so many trash qbs in the NFL it isn't even funny.
That is just dumb. Just because a player is not an NFL star does not mean they aren’t in the top .01% of football players. Do you really think that the NFL is not trying to employ the best quarterbacks they can? That they are signing trash when they know of better players selling insurance or cutting grass? Just because someone isn’t one of the top 20 players in the world doesn’t mean they are trash. And it doesn’t mean they weren’t a great college player. Were Tua, Mac, A.J. and Bryce Young trash in college? Based on what you are arguing that is what you are saying.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:48 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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You think Carson Beck is a 1st year starter.
He is a 1st year starter at Miami. That is not up for debate. That is an established fact. He had to learn a new system and new coaching staff in one year.
Some players seem to pick things up quickly. Mendoza is a first year starter at Indiana and just won the Heisman. Others seem to struggle. Snagging a transfer QB isn’t just about how physically gifted they are, it is also about how fast they can learn and adapt.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:52 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Why didn't Cignetti recruit Fernando Mendoza to JMU?
Probably because he knew JMU couldn’t afford him. He knew JMU couldn’t match what Cal was paying him, or what they would counter with. This year’s JMU starter Alonza Barnett just entered the transfer portal. A P4 school is going to pay him more than JMU can. The G5 schools are the ones getting raided for players, not the ones doing the raiding.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:56 am to captdalton
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He is a 1st year starter at Miami. That is not up for debate. That is an established fact. He had to learn a new system and new coaching staff in one year.
It's a dumb dumb take. Carson Beck is 23 years old and has been in college for 6 years.
You think Beck learning Miami's playbook wasn't a scoach easier than Keelon Russell coming to BAMA and learning the college game?
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Mendoza is a first year starter at Indiana and just won the Heisman.
Another dumb dumb take. Burrow won the Heisman in year two at LSU, as well. But he was 23 fricking years old man. These arent 19 year old 2nd year starters, you idiot.
Dan Orlovsky HAS NEVER BEEN in the top 0.01% of quarterbacks in his entire life. You think NFL scouts dont get it wrong sometimes?
You think Trent Richardson was a top 0.01% at running back? You don't think that perhaps there was a running back better suited for the NFL than him that perhaps got looked over??
You are a dumb dumb.
Nick Saban didn't quit football because of players being paid.
He quit because he didn't want to develop guys for three seasons and then coach against them because of the portal.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:58 am to captdalton
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Do you really think that the NFL is not trying to employ the best quarterbacks they can?
Not the backups dumb dumb. If they backup plays they are resigned to lose.
If what you say is true then why don't backup qbs ever win anything in the NFL??
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:00 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
The SEC doesn’t have to use the transfer portal to win championships.
The league needs higher-end coaching stability.
The league needs higher-end coaching stability.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:00 am to captdalton
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Probably because he knew JMU couldn’t afford him.
And you'd be wrong.
Mendoza got 1 scholly at D1. Cal.
His other scholarships were Lehigh, Yale, and Penn.
Pretty sure JMU could've kept him on the east coast seeing as how he's from Miami.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:01 am to bisonduck
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The SEC doesn’t have to use the transfer portal to win championships.
Agreed. But as long as they feed the NFL and never get to have any players over 21 years old they will get dominated by the B1G.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:06 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Oregon is one of the youngest teams in all of college football.
Cignetti formula isn’t winning it every year.
Cignetti formula isn’t winning it every year.
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