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re: This is why I hate a Committee making the decisions
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:22 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:22 am to Bench McElroy
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The only thing wrong about the BCS was just having #1 vs. #2. A four team BCS playoff would have been just fine.
I'm not so sure, the BCS was 2/3rds polls, I think we have seen the committee is better than the polls are at gauging teams. Perhaps if the sportswriters and especially the coaches had the time and resources that are provided to the committee they could do as good or better job, (i think the committee is way too susceptible to group think and disproportionate influence from it's school affiliated members)
but the AP and coaches polls have no guidelines and no accountability.
as per example, Nick Saban voted Ok ST Fourth in the final coaches poll of 2011, he was the only SEC coach with a ballot to do so. By itself this wasn't margin between ok st and Alabama getting into the title game, but the BCS margin between the two schools was extremely close, the fact that someone with such an obvious conflict of interest would have the ability to directly effect the outcome is not ok.
I did like how the BCS incorporated multiple independent rankings. I think the current system would be improved, perhaps if the committee rankings were weighted against the BCS computers. 2/3 1/3 at least.
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:31 am to BHMKyle
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A perfect example:
Two teams from the same Conference....
*Oklahoma is 7-1
*Baylor is 8-0
*Oklahoma has defeated zero teams in the Top 25
*Baylor has defeated TWO teams in the Top 25
*Oklahoma LOST at #16 Kansas State by 7 points
*Baylor WON at #16 Kansas State by 19 points
What basis would one have to rank Oklahoma ahead of Baylor at this point in the season? But of course, the Committee did just that, ranking 7-1 Oklahoma at #9 and undefeated Baylor at #12.
This is exactly why you have a committee. I'm surprised at you. Most UGA fans I know are astute enough to look past the mere W-L record.
Rice had the ball with 6:00 left against Baylor, only down a touchdown. fricking winless Rice who's 0-9. Top ten teams don't almost get beat by 0-9 Rice.
They only beat 5-3 Iowa State by 2 at home, with ISU having the ball at their 44 at the end.
They had to go to overtime to beat another shitty team, Texas Tech (3-5), by 3 points. That game was also at home.
They only beat another shitty team, West Virginia (3-5) by 3 points, again at home.
But Oklahoma is only ranked ahead of them because of the "brand."
There are 6 teams with losses ranked ahead of Baylor, simply because their 8-0 record is bullshite. They almost got beat by three teams that are pure dogshit. That's why you have a fricking committee...to see that kind of bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:34 am to Bill_M
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I agree Baylor's results are impressive.
What's fricking impressive about their near losses to dogshit teams like RIce, West Virginia, and Texas Tech.
A one-possession win over 0-9 Rice? What the hell is impressive about that?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:44 am to BamaGradinTn
I will agree, not every 8-0 record is created equal.
Now I think that Minnesota's 8-0 record is vaguely impressive and that #17 is about right for what they have done. They haven't really beaten any good teams, though they've laid the lumber to some big name teams, so that sounds about where they should be.
I doubt they will stay there since their schedule gets a lot more difficult in the coming weeks with three of their last four against ranked teams.
Which is why, in the unlikely event both go unbeaten, I'd take Minnesota over Baylor because the Gophers will have a legit trial by fire in the home stretch.
Now I think that Minnesota's 8-0 record is vaguely impressive and that #17 is about right for what they have done. They haven't really beaten any good teams, though they've laid the lumber to some big name teams, so that sounds about where they should be.
I doubt they will stay there since their schedule gets a lot more difficult in the coming weeks with three of their last four against ranked teams.
Which is why, in the unlikely event both go unbeaten, I'd take Minnesota over Baylor because the Gophers will have a legit trial by fire in the home stretch.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:19 am to Rabern57
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Right now Bama is top only because their name and not the teams they have beat this year. They probably have the worst resume in the top 20.
While it's not due to the teams we've beat, the name in and of itself has nothing to do with it. Fair or not, it's because of how Alabama has recruited and performed for the last decade or so. Bama's name wouldn't mean a damn thing without the recent results...
As for the resume, our's is at least as good as Clemson's, probably a tad better due to their close call against UNC. Oklahoma, Minnesota, Cincinnati, and Wake Forest are all in the top 20 and our resume is clearly better than their's. Or do you mean schedule since resume and schedule are two different things? In that case, our schedule is still better than Oklahoma, Clemson, and Minnesota...and considering the games left on our schedule, it'll only improve...
It doesn't matter any way 'cause the first ranking doesn't mean squat; the #1 team in the initial poll has never won the CFP and the #3 team in the initial poll has never even made the CFP. If Bama wins out, they deserve to be in the CFP; if Bama loses to LSU this weekend, that #3 initial ranking means bupkis...
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