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Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:57 am to BasedCrimson
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:57 am to BasedCrimson
Bama fans are so ate up with tDecline that they're crying about refs in a game they didn't even play in
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:02 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Since the blindside block was made illegal. There is not “just use your hands” loophole. If you knock a player down coming from the opposite direction and especially if that player isn’t looking, it’s a blindside block and that’s against the rules.
See yet another LSU fan showing their ignorance of the rule. The hands exception is CLEARLY spelled out in the rule. The scenario we saw Saturday is RIGHT OUT OF THE RULE BOOK. and listed as No foul.
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Blind-Side Block ARTICLE 18 No player shall deliver a blind-side block by attacking an opponent with forcible contact
(Exceptions: (1) the runner;
(2) a receiver in the act of attempting to make a catch )
(Note: In addition, if this action meets all the elements of targeting, it is a blind-slide block with targeting (Rule 9-1-3 and 9-1-4).
Blind-Side Block—ARTICLE 18 Approved Ruling 9-1-18
B44 intercepts the pass of A12 at the B-20 and turns back up-field on the return
During the return, B21 approaches A88 at midfield from the blind side and blocks A88
(a) with extended hands;
(b) with a screen type block;
(c) by attacking with forcible contact with his shoulder into the chest of A88;
(d) by attacking with forcible contact with the shoulder into the head of A88 B44 returns the pass to the A-20
RULING:
(a) No foul
(b) No foul
(c) Personal Foul, blind-side block, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul
(d) Personal Foul, Blind-Side Block with Targeting, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul and B21 is disqualified
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:06 am to BasedCrimson
Beamer said in his press conference they teach find the quarterback…. I get that but unless he’s actually able to make a tackle, no reason to hit him. Nuss was never even close to the play and never saw the hit coming from his right. That is a penalty in today’s game. Like it hate it they will call that just about every time. Same with the horsecollar which sucks for the player but it’s going to get called.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:08 am to BasedCrimson
play was moving the opposite direction and he went against the flow to lay someone out. Illegal. Sorry their player cant control himself to seal a win.
all he had to do was get in the way to block. He chose to hit with force against the flow of the play. thats not legal.
all he had to do was get in the way to block. He chose to hit with force against the flow of the play. thats not legal.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:12 am to BasedCrimson
quote:Blind side blocks have been illegal since 2019
Since when is shoving a guy in the chest an illegal block?
You are only 5 years behind
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:14 am to FoTownBam
quote:Thats exactly what they called. There is zero controversy on this call
What was the call on the play? I admittedly didn’t watch. It would seem like if the interception happened, and then it was called a blind side block after the pick, then South Carolina should’ve kept the ball and been penalized 15 yards. Maybe I’m wrong
The missed calls this game were the refs not calling a penalty on USCe for the illegal play on the blocked punt
And
The refs calling a phantom offensive PI on USCe
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:26 am to TigerFan244
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you can see that #5 went straight for Nuss’s head/helmet area
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:27 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:Which he failed to do
a) with extended hands
He literally pushed Nuss down. That’s the very definition of having your arms bent to start then forcibly pushing them
The ncaa literally has a educational video on how to legally extend your hands for a blindside block
It’s right here below :
NCAA released video
You quite literally have to extend your hands in the air and just get in the other players way. Anything else is a penalty
Saban clearly taught that. Beamer apparently teaches them to go find a penalty
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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There is zero controversy on this call
This is patently untrue. Josh Pate, Bussin with the Boys, Dave Portnoy, That SEC Podcast, and literally anyone on Twitter who isn't an LSU fan have called that penalty utterly egregious. Even SEC Shorts made fun of it.
It wasn't a block in the back, it wasn't targeting, it wasn't a defenseless player, it wasn't overtly aggressive (two hand shove on the shoulder, which under the rules Lonnie Utah cited is perfectly legal).
It was a bad call, and it was instrumental in helping LSU stay in the game. Be objective for a moment: LSU was gifted a series of horrific calls. Be thankful for it, but acknowledge it for what it was.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:32 am to RoyalAir
quote:It wasn’t those things
It wasn't a block in the back, it wasn't targeting, it wasn't a defenseless player, it wasn't overtly aggressive (two hand shove on the shoulder, which under the rules Lonnie Utah cited is perfectly legal).
But it is a very very obvious blind side block
And I showed what “extended hands” is. I showed you the ncaa educational video. Pushing someone down is not extended hands
It was a very very very obvious and easy call
The most egregious missed call was the clearly illegal leaping penalty on the blocked punt
The other bad call was calling OPI on USCe
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:34 am to lsupride87
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But it is a very very obvious blind side block
To block someone in the chest is a blindside block?
Had he pushed him from the side or behind, maybe. Both hands were on his throwing shoulder. C'mon man, this isn't complicated.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:36 am to RoyalAir
quote:Umm, yes. You can hit someone in the front and it’s a blindside block
To block someone in the chest is a blindside block?
This really isn’t confusing
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:37 am to lsupride87
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But it is a very very obvious blind side block
Then why wasn't it called a blind side block. Here's the call. They called it a personal foul.
Here's the signal for blindside block.
But even if it was, you can legally hit the opposing player with your hands. We've gone over this 50 times.
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Blind-Side Block ARTICLE 18 No player shall deliver a blind-side block by attacking an opponent with forcible contact
(Exceptions: (1) the runner;
(2) a receiver in the act of attempting to make a catch )
(Note: In addition, if this action meets all the elements of targeting, it is a blind-slide block with targeting (Rule 9-1-3 and 9-1-4).
Blind-Side Block—ARTICLE 18 Approved Ruling 9-1-18
B44 intercepts the pass of A12 at the B-20 and turns back up-field on the return
During the return, B21 approaches A88 at midfield from the blind side and blocks A88
(a) with extended hands;
(b) with a screen type block;
(c) by attacking with forcible contact with his shoulder into the chest of A88;
(d) by attacking with forcible contact with the shoulder into the head of A88 B44 returns the pass to the A-20
RULING:
(a) No foul
(b) No foul
(c) Personal Foul, blind-side block, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul
(d) Personal Foul, Blind-Side Block with Targeting, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul and B21 is disqualified
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:38 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:38 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:No, no you can’t. You can’t hit them with anything
But even if it was, you can legally hit the opposing player with your hands.
I literally showed you what extended hands is from the ncaa educational video itself
Any forcible contact makes it a penalty. Thats why your hands must be “extended”, so you can’t hit someone with them
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
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It wasn’t those things
But it is a very very obvious blind side block
Just except the fact that LSU was gifted the game. Anyone other than a LSU fan can see this for what it is.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:39 am to lsupride87
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No, no you can’t. You can’t hit them with anything
Are you incapable of reading the rule?
Let me post it again for you, SLOWLY.
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Blind-Side Block ARTICLE 18 No player shall deliver a blind-side block by attacking an opponent with forcible contact
(Exceptions: (1) the runner;
(2) a receiver in the act of attempting to make a catch )
(Note: In addition, if this action meets all the elements of targeting, it is a blind-slide block with targeting (Rule 9-1-3 and 9-1-4).
Blind-Side Block—ARTICLE 18 Approved Ruling 9-1-18
B44 intercepts the pass of A12 at the B-20 and turns back up-field on the return
During the return, B21 approaches A88 at midfield from the blind side and blocks A88
(a) with extended hands;
(b) with a screen type block;
(c) by attacking with forcible contact with his shoulder into the chest of A88;
(d) by attacking with forcible contact with the shoulder into the head of A88 B44 returns the pass to the A-20
RULING:
(a) No foul
(b) No foul
(c) Personal Foul, blind-side block, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul
(d) Personal Foul, Blind-Side Block with Targeting, 15-yard penalty from the spot of the foul and B21 is disqualified
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Any forcible contact makes it a penalty.
Forceable contact is defined in the rule as contact with he helmet or shoulders. That's why contact with the hands isn't forceable and isn't a foul.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:40 am to Lonnie Utah
From the ncaa itself, this is what is legal. This is what “extended hands” is
The ncaa literally has a educational video on how to legally extend your hands for a blindside block
It’s right here below :
NCAA released video
The ncaa literally has a educational video on how to legally extend your hands for a blindside block
It’s right here below :
NCAA released video
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:44 am to lsupride87
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From the ncaa itself, this is what is legal. This is what “extended hands” is
No, per the video that is scenario (b) of the rule, "a screen type block;" The commentator even calls it a screen with his description.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 9:46 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:48 am to DawgsLife
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Now, this could be a correct call. I don't believe Nussmeir had any chance to make the tackle.
How the hell can the ref make the call that Nussmeir couldn't make the play so shouldn't be allowed to be blocked. Nussmeir threw it from the 20 on the right hash. The defender caught the ball and was going backwards and landed in the endzone. The defender stopped and started from his own endzone. The ref can arbitrarily say "this slow arse white kid cannot possibly make it the 20 yards from the hash to the sideline to make the tackle... we have to treat him as though he is out of the play"
Give me a break. Even if it would have been unlikely does not mean you can say it was impossible.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:58 am to lsupride87
Raised isn't extended...I think I could live with a blind side block call probably more than the person foul penalty that was called.
Imo they only got the call because it was a qb that was shoved.
Imo they only got the call because it was a qb that was shoved.
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