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re: The "We Are Alabama" Factor?

Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:00 am to
Posted by ShreveportBama
Athens, AL
Member since Jul 2008
4936 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:00 am to
You and I are on the same page.
Posted by Tidetoit
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
233 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:01 am to
It's those bloody crimson jerseys.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:03 am to
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Alabama has sort of "cemented" itself in the minds of those who follow college programs as one of those "it schools" that makes it somewhat easier for a coach to be successful than it otherwise would be


Which is part of We are Alabama, and how it is meant.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88126 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:12 am to
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Which is part of We are Alabama, and how it is meant.


Yeah, but that's an artificial perception of (mostly) casual college football followers. That's not inherent to Alabama, which is what i was referring to.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:13 am to
Perception becomes reality.
Posted by Cheetah Flex
Big Island, Hawaii
Member since May 2008
10578 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:19 am to
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Alabama is better than you.



funny thing is you guys were spewing this last year, and the year before..hell, every year
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 6:06 am to
Well, we were better than you last time.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 6:20 am to
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Draconian Sanctions


Are you trying to convince a fanbase of a school / team with a glorious history (perhaps the best in college football,ever) to NOT have pride and glean happiness from that history?

I don't get the point of the thread. We, LSU fans, are appropriately proud of our program and its recent success especially.

I would rather have the Bama fans wearing hats, shirts, etc and proclaiming their pride and positive expectations than to take some phony "aw, shucks" attitude toward their team.

Where is the fun in a game / rivalry without the passion and pride from BOTH sides???
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 7:24 am to
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no, seriously.. I hate basketball.. I hope we lose every game for two years and they drop it. Freakin sport is stupid and sux.


Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 7:26 am to
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I'm sorry for all the dumbasses. There is nothing inherently great about any program.





it's like saying "LSU is the best program in the SEC because of the uniforms they wear"

Posted by Fatbackhawg
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2008
3139 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:43 am to
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You have us on wins and SEC West Championships, but LSU has you on the championships that matter.

Which holds more value?


"if you ain't first...your last...."
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:50 am to
Something ArKansas would be accustomed to for sure.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11242 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 10:25 am to
I would chose between being an LSU fan then a Bama fan everyday of the week

LSU great recent success, and pretty good all time.
Bama Mediocre recent success, great all team.

LSU better in every other sport.

Great to be a Tiger.

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38330 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 10:37 am to
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LSU's best coach ever is at Bama now and I think getting him was luck, but it happened.


What was saban's record here?
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 10:57 am to
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LSU great recent success, and pretty good all time.
Bama Mediocre recent success, great all team.
What will really trip your trigger is that during our "Mediocre"(Stretch even calling it that) run since 2000, we have 1 less 10-win season than LSU had in their entire history before Saban got there. From 1909-2000 LSU had 3 10-win seasons, we have had 2 since 2000. Even when we suck, we are still respectable. The streaks we had from both sets of Tigers, the inability to beat inferior teams (Northern Illinois, etc), and the inability to put teams away (Arky 03, UT 03) have clouded the Bama program. However, Saban after this season, has put fire back into the program, has restored the "Winning" attitude, and is bringing in Blue Chip talent. This has caused a lot of us gumps to lose our minds, especially those of us that remember and grew up watching Bama in the 90's.
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:04 am to
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What was saban's record here?
The man won 48 games in 5 years. LSU won 54 the entire decade of the 90's. He started a run for LSU that has been matched by very few teams EVER. PLEASE, PLEASE don't turn this into another ridiculous 30 page thread trying to say that Saban didn't do anything for LSU, LSU did it all for him, even though they couldn't do it for any other coach in their history.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11923 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:07 am to
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But he didn't - and the reason he didn't is because he was recruited to play for Alabama by Frank Thomas, where he played on a National Championship Team in 1934 and learned how important a winning tradition is. When Alabama called he came running.



No, he came back because the College Station, Texas area was a dry area at the time. The sauce was calling him.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11923 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:10 am to
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What will really trip your trigger is that during our "Mediocre"(Stretch even calling it that) run since 2000, we have 1 less 10-win season than LSU had in their entire history before Saban got there. From 1909-2000 LSU had 3 10-win seasons, we have had 2 since 2000. Even when we suck, we are still respectable. The streaks we had from both sets of Tigers, the inability to beat inferior teams (Northern Illinois, etc), and the inability to put teams away (Arky 03, UT 03) have clouded the Bama program. However, Saban after this season, has put fire back into the program, has restored the "Winning" attitude, and is bringing in Blue Chip talent. This has caused a lot of us gumps to lose our minds, especially those of us that remember and grew up watching Bama in the 90's.



You were put on probation after one of those 10 win seasons, right? The other one was Shulas mirage, right?
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:21 am to
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You were put on probation after one of those 10 win seasons, right?
Correct. The better question is do you know why? People act like we were caught giving every player on our team new houses and 100k a year. We had a rougue booster outbid the other teams for a recruit. Does not make it right by any stretch though. We were rightly punished, however, NCAA even admitted they were wrong on many accusations, and said the punishment was too harsh, but was nothing they could do after it had been handed down. We pushed through it. End of story.
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The other one was Shulas mirage, right?
Mirage or not, the guy still thumped UF and beat 9 other teams. I really wish I would have been a member on this board leading up to the Cotton Bowl. I'm sure the "TT gonna smoke you" and "Book it. Gumps will get throttled" threads would have been humorous to watch.
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 11:21 am to
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You were put on probation after one of those 10 win seasons, right?


We were put on probation before 2002 over a player that never stepped on the field for Bama.

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The other one was Shulas mirage, right?


I give all the credit to Joe Kines for us winning 10 in 2005. Shula is a classy guy and I respect everything he did here as a player but he was a horrible HC.
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