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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos

Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1355 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:26 am to
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Can anyone show me how many NC any Big 12 teams has won against the SEC?


Can anyone show me how next season the teams are going through a time portal and will replay games with the same rosters as in the last two decades?

Congrats in advance on your historical arguments when Texas does fine in the conference. As a Texas fan, I'm only interested in Texas record against the SEC this year. And over the next few years.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:27 am to
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Can anybody show me all the players aggot and mizzou lost to injury in their first season in your league "cuz of dat SEC griiinnd"?



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Can anyone show me how many NC any Big 12 teams has won against the SEC?


You failed to answer my question entirely and this is what you went with?

I already know the answer to my own question. Neither mizzou or aggot suffered multiple casualties playing in the SEC "because of dat physical SEC griiind". In fact, they both did very well and integrated seamlessly, now isn't that right?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68672 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:28 am to
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Don't you see how this kind of makes our point for us? You're saying that "the entire SEC is a grind" yet bottom feeder big 12 teams are basically the same as bottom feeder SEC teams.


Arkansas had 8 other games this year that I am sure were more important to their team than BYU. On the other hand BYU , and other P5 teams get excited to play the big bad SEC and probably care more about that feather in their cap than a lesser team in their own conference.

It is amazing what that one win against bama has done for Texas fans...if only championships were won in September yall would have one
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:30 am to
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Yeah if Bama and UTa play again it will be ugly.


That's what you all said in September.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:30 am to
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Arkansas had 8 other games this year that I am sure were more important to their team than BYU. On the other hand BYU , and other P5 teams get excited to play the big bad SEC and probably care more about that feather in their cap than a lesser team in their own conference.
Oh hell yea I can't wait to use this one:

"Well the SEC is too good for you even when we don't care about you. We didn't want to be there and that's the only reason we lost"
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It is amazing what that one win against bama has done for Texas fans...if only championships were won in September yall would have one
I know. I mean, it's not like Texas won 11 of their next 12 games played in the month after, won their conference and went to the playoff or anything.

Who do these longhorns think they are??!!!
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:31 am to
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Arkansas has beat ya'll the last two times. You're right it doesn't take a perennial powerhouses.
Yea because games Texas played with Charlie Strong and in 2021 are totally relevant.

Since we're talking about ancient history, Texas has beat A&M 9 of the last 12 times this century. So by your standard, that makes you our bitch, right?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32298 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:32 am to
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Can anybody show me all the players aggot and mizzou lost to injury in their first season in your league "cuz of dat SEC griiinnd"?

Yes because season ending injuries is what it’s all about. That’s what the grind of the SEC does to your team.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:32 am to
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If you can’t understand that all we’re saying is our middle-tier teams are stronger and more physical than other conferences middle-tier teams, then you can’t be helped.
Then how come data said Texas had a harder schedule playing Big 12 teams this year?
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Look at the historical records and you’ll see that half the conference has winning records over all the other P5 conferences.
Looking at historical records Texas has a winning record over almost all of the mighty SEC. Doesn't really make a difference in 2024, does it?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32298 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:33 am to
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That's what you all said in September.

Nah they hadn’t played yet and shown their cards. Bama has identity now.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:33 am to
Nowhere in that post does it say "season ending injuries". Keep dancing.....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:33 am to
2023 NFL Defensive Linemen in the NFL

From SC, FL, GA, AL, MS and LA

106

Offensive Linemen

118


From the entirety of the Big 12 footprint

D - 34

O - 68

It is simply easier to get a 6'4" 300 pound kid with incredible speed to stay close to Mama when you have a heaping pile of them in the area to recruit.

Watch high school football in those SEC states. Hell for that watch youth football. The size and the speed of the kids playing in the trenches is astonishing. In Big 12 country you will see loads of kids that are tall and fast as lightening...but you wont see a bunch who are chunky but have great feet and incredible speed. Thats where about 90% of the physicality comes from in football...in the trenches. OU and Texas is not accustomed to fielding teams with that kind of talent and depth in the trenches and they have no idea the kind of violence that takes place every snap....but they will this time next year.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:34 am to
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Nah they hadn’t played yet and shown their cards. Bama has identity now.
"Only SEC teams can get better and develop an identity! It's what makes our conference so great and others so poo poo! Nobody else has EVER gotten better throughout the season other than SEC teams!!!"
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32298 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:35 am to
Lost to injury? Wtf else are you getting at?

What is your definition of lost?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32298 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:36 am to
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Shea Vinnerbush

You’re fricking scared shitless to play Bama again
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:36 am to
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Nah they hadn’t played yet and shown their cards. Bama has identity now.


Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4312 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:36 am to
It happens with greater frequency in the SEC. Of coarse injuries happen in every league but the SEC can thin out a roster fast because the league is so physically demanding.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45445 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:37 am to
Wait until you have to play Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Ole Miss, Auburn, and yes - even sometimes Arkansas regularly. Report back to us after a few years of that.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32298 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:37 am to
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Looking at historical records Texas has a winning record over almost all of the mighty SEC. Doesn't really make a difference in 2024, does it?

Jesus man we’re comparing LEAGUES in this thread.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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Lost to injury? Wtf else are you getting at?

What is your definition of lost?


Well gee, genius. Think you might be able to lose a player to injury for a game, or multiple games?
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:38 am to
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You’re fricking scared shitless to play Bama again
Lol based on what? Texas' 8-2 record against them? Their 1-0 record against them this year, which included a mercy knee to only win by 10 instead of 17?

Keep getting on your knees for them, bud. It in no way is incredibly embarrassing for you to slurp another team in your own conference
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