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re: “The SEC folks were just ridiculous with their ‘four best teams’ chicanery"
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:09 am to northalabamacracker
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:09 am to northalabamacracker
Meh, a ring is a ring is a ring. 99.9% of LSU fans who still had hard feelings toward Nick let it go after the 2010 game. That was a huge game obviously but no bigger than 2007 and definitely less big than 2003 since that was our first in such a long time.
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
I understand. It is human nature to deny and minimize painful events. 2011 was overranted. 
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:14 am to RollTide1987
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Just look at 2010. Alabama finished with a 9-3 record (and finished 4th in the West) and met up with 11-1 and Big 10 co-champion Michigan State in the Capital One Bowl. Alabama won the game 49-7 and Michigan State didn't score until late in the 4th quarter when Alabama's scrubs were in the game.
I don't even remember how Mich St scored, I just remember Lacy breaking through the line and tearing off a 50 or 60 yard td and Saban throwing his hands up in the air like that was the last thing we needed.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:17 am to northalabamacracker
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2011 was overranted
It's not overrated. It sucks hardcore to lose an NC game, one of the toughest losses ever for sure but you seem to want it to be some kind of world ending loss for us and it's just not. We'll be back, LSU isn't going anywhere
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:17 am to Merck
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
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99.9% of LSU fans who still had hard feelings toward Nick let it go after the 2010 game.
hmmm?
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:34 am to northalabamacracker
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the 4 most deserving teams are. Not best, deserving.
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Just like the 2 most deserving from last year, just give us 2 more, then 2 more, then 2 more, as the years go by.
you aren't very smart, are you?
ETA: being the better team =/= being the most deserving team
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 11:36 am
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:36 am to brewhan davey
If you're not the best, you not the most deserving.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:37 am to Alahunter
Flawed logic is flawed
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:40 am to brewhan davey
A sore butt is sore.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:41 am to northalabamacracker
you got me
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:51 am to Alahunter
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Understand: There is no ‘one, two, three, four.’ There are only opinions and computer formulas. You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”
Only a dumbass actually believes this would be best for college football
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:01 pm to northalabamacracker
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We've won the NC before and will again
But you will never get the chance to do it against a Nick Saban led Alabama in New Orleans.
Only if you're not good enough to get there. We will be back there.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:06 pm to Porker Face
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Only a dumbass actually believes this would be best for college football
only a dumbass thinks he powers that be give a shitte about what's best for CFB
I told everyone when all this started....there is no way you will get all the conferences to agree to a Top4....They will not accept the possibility of being shut out....just won't happen....
each conference only cares about itself..not saying that is wrong but no way everyone agrees to top 4 without being guaranteed a slot
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:08 pm to northalabamacracker
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And it will be just as meaningfull as beating Nick Saban and Alabama in New Orleans (LSU's back yard) with a chance at football immortality on the line
We play Alabama every year. I will seriously get over any loss to Alabama as soon as the next victory against them comes up, which shouldn't be long.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:09 pm to Alahunter
That is one solid argument against the "Top4" system IMO.
Everyone is ASSUMING that the teams ranked 1-4 are "the top4 teams." That isn't necessarily true, as the Top4 are determined by subjective measures (human polls + computers).
Everyone is ASSUMING that the teams ranked 1-4 are "the top4 teams." That isn't necessarily true, as the Top4 are determined by subjective measures (human polls + computers).
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:11 pm to JPLSU1981
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Everyone is ASSUMING that the teams ranked 1-4 are "the top4 teams." That isn't necessarily true, as the Top4 are determined by subjective measures (human polls + computers).
If every one agrees to a formula for the computers before the season, then it's not subjective.
now, like you said, the human polls are extremely flawed. Especially the Coaches which is a huge part of the BCS formula.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:53 pm to Alahunter
8 team playoff.
The 6 champions of the BCS conferences (as long as they are in the top 20), and 2 "at large" bids.. the highest ranking non-BCS conf. champs in BCS poll. Additional "at large" bids to take the place of the BCS conf. champs not ranked in top 20.
I think this would work.
The 6 champions of the BCS conferences (as long as they are in the top 20), and 2 "at large" bids.. the highest ranking non-BCS conf. champs in BCS poll. Additional "at large" bids to take the place of the BCS conf. champs not ranked in top 20.
I think this would work.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:00 pm to TigersRuleTheEarth
Didn't read entire thread, but the argument that Slive's "1,2,3,4" approach is wrong because the NFL doesn't use subjectivity is completely off point. There are so many differences between the NFL and the NCAA it just doesn't make sense to compare the two.
It's true that the NFL playoffs use division champs, etc.. But it's also true that the NFL teams don't negotiate their own schedules. The NFL decides the schedules for ALL participants. And there is a draft order where the lower ranked teams get first priority over teams that finished ahead of them.
So, unless you want the NCAA to set all college football schedules to be as balanced as possible across the board, don't tell me that subjectivity has no place in the discussion. But I agree that the criteria/formula for making those judgements should be agreed upon ahead of time.
It's true that the NFL playoffs use division champs, etc.. But it's also true that the NFL teams don't negotiate their own schedules. The NFL decides the schedules for ALL participants. And there is a draft order where the lower ranked teams get first priority over teams that finished ahead of them.
So, unless you want the NCAA to set all college football schedules to be as balanced as possible across the board, don't tell me that subjectivity has no place in the discussion. But I agree that the criteria/formula for making those judgements should be agreed upon ahead of time.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I'm not making that argument, just pointing out that you could. I hate people who can't just tip their cap and give credit to the other team for being better that day. Yeah I know LSU fans do this too and I'm not absolving them either, but it seems to be quite the epidemic at Alabama and it starts with the head coach. Classless.
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Draconian Sanctions
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99.9% of LSU fans who still had hard feelings toward Nick let it go after the 2010 game.
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Draconian Sanctions
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I am the .1%!
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Draconian Sanctions
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