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Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:23 pm to jb21lsu
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That would be correct.
It would have been news to apparently the entire announcing crew, the refs they brought in to talk about the play and everyone else in the broadcast booth if that is the case.
A safety happens as a result of a play, not during the play.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:24 pm to ScoggDog
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Then he's down. Safety. Keep repeating dumb shite. Doesn't make it any smarter.
If he's down at that point, then it's roughing the passer because the guy who is 7 yards away hits him.
The officials reversed that call because they did not view him as being down at that point, thus the hit was not late. And since they didn't view him down at that point, they also viewed it as him getting the pass off before going down.
You seem to want to call him down at that point, but then also pretend that he didn't get hit by the guy 7 yards away.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:27 pm to Milf n Cookies
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You would be better off ignoring this irrelevant babble. The play was the tackling of Alabama's QB....nothing more. The officials blew it, Texas got hosed and Alabama benefitted from their incompetence. End of story.
You know, you are right.
If Kentucky ever gets to play at Texas ... and who knows, the way the SEC handles this shite, I might be dead before that happens ... but if they do, I think I'll go. Drag my travel trailer, I like it better than a hotel room anyway.
Buy you a beer, if it all works out.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:30 pm to Milf n Cookies
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Quarterback has football and retreats into his own endzone where he is tackled by the opposing team.
What is the definition of a player being down, and therefore tackled?
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:31 pm to Milf n Cookies
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You would be better off ignoring this irrelevant babble. The play was the tackling of Alabama's QB....nothing more. The officials blew it, Texas got hosed and Alabama benefitted from their incompetence. End of story.
Yeah, Bryce's helmet half ripped itself off.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:32 pm to Milf n Cookies
The leg was clearly down before he threw it. It was a shite call. I don’t understand why people are arguing this.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:34 pm to troyt37
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What is the definition of a player being down, and therefore tackled?
Literally part of the problem. And a damn good question.
If you read the rule book, literally, ten offensive players could build a human pyramid, and let the ball carrier get on top. That ball carrier is not "down", by definition, as long as that human pyramid keeps moving forward.
And this is a relatively new thing. Ball carriers were called "down", twenty years ago, regardless of if they touched the actual ground. And pushing the pile was not allowed. These second efforts were not allowed. Once forward motion with contact stopped, play was dead.
It was better that way.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:34 pm to billjamin
If it was a safety the refs would have called it - sorry your teams suck and you have no life
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:35 pm to NashvilleTider
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If it was a safety the refs would have called it - sorry your teams suck and you have no life
typical gump response. Sorry y’all needed a blown call to beat unranked Texas. 
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:35 pm to ScoggDog
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Then he's down. Safety. Keep repeating dumb shite. Doesn't make it any smarter.
Late hits are automatic first downs. That's regardless if they would result in a safety or not.
Roughing the passer is also an automatic first down, regardless if the play results in a safety or not.
Approved Rulings for Rule 9, Article 1, Section 7 (Late Hit) and Rule 9, Article 1, Section 9 (Roughing the Passer).
It's the same reason that roughing the kicker on a punt doesn't just pull back a punt return a few yards; the team that punted the ball gets the ball back.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:36 pm to NashvilleTider
I love how triggered they all are about a play in a non SEC game.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:37 pm to billjamin
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The leg was clearly down before he threw it. It was a shite call. I don’t understand why people are arguing this.
Because if he is down at that point, then the late hit/roughing the passer call was correct.
As #0 ends up ripping Bryce Youngs helmet half way off before the player and he is clearly 7 yards away from Bryce Young in the image.
Meanwhile, Alabama player tackles the Texas QB who jumps in the air as he throws and is hit at the same time in the air in his chest area roughing the passer giving Texas 1st and goal from the 1.
But yeah, it was Texas who got screwed by the refs.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:41 pm to skrayper
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Late hits are automatic first downs. That's regardless if they would result in a safety or not. Roughing the passer is also an automatic first down, regardless if the play results in a safety or not.
Man, I'll do the link again, if you like, to the video.
Young is literally arse over head, flopping and flinging. Two Texas players are running to the play. Did the whistle blow ? We don't know, but if it did, its because the play is dead.
Neither player initiated contact. The player that was called for the flag tried to minimize contact. Literally. He twisted his body to not land on the QB. The same QB that you seem to think was a live player, throwing a legit forward pass.
frick me. You got a gift. You escaped with a win. What in the Hell is up with all this justification of it ?
Kentucky got a gift last night with a shite roughing the passer call. Its not roughing when Levis is running, then stops and suddenly throws, while a linemen tries to get him down. I cheered the play. But I did not try to go through a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify it. It was a shite call. They go both ways. Sometimes.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:44 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I love how triggered they all are about a play in a non SEC game.
Even though I had no dog in the fight, I was just as triggered by the outcome of the Arkansas vs Auburn game in 2020. I just hate to see the officials determine who wins a football game when the players have left their blood and sweat on the field.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 4:50 pm to Milf n Cookies
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Even though I had no dog in the fight, I was just as triggered by the outcome of the Arkansas vs Auburn game in 2020. I just hate to see the officials determine who wins a football game when the players have left their blood and sweat on the field.
That's part of the fiction of grown arse men using sports as our version of soap operas. The entire idea is "best team wins".
No. When two teams are completely even ? Refs tilt the scales. That's simple logic. Hence, all the screaming and justifying about how they don't.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:08 pm to PassingThrough
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There is no way his lower leg wasn't down on the other side of the defender.
His shin was 100% down but regardless it was a textbook intentional grounding and that can’t be disputed. He was upside down while trying to throw.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:12 pm to ScoggDog
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You can see, at the 1:00 mark, Young be down with his non-throwing arm before he slings the football with no idea of a target.
You’re literally making shite up. Lower leg? Like what his ankle? Neither of his knees touch and then his arm is already coming forward and ball is coming out as his elbow begins to touch the ground.
I know you want Bama to lose, and I admit it was a freaky play. Maybe if the DT could’ve secured the tackle better, or the LB wasn’t coming in to rough the passer while he was on the ground, it could’ve been a safety.
But the DT couldn’t, the LB did rush in to hit a player on the ground, and the pass boinked off his helmet.
Even then, you can see McLellan is in the vicinity of where the ball was probably going to land anyway, and Bryce had already shoveled it to a RB similarly earlier.
Try again next week kids
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:16 pm to dbeck
Yeah, he’s down right there. He didn’t throw the ball for another half second or so.
Posted on 9/11/22 at 5:18 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Neither of his knees
You don’t know the rule. His calf/shin touch which is considered down.
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