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re: The rematch between LSU and Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game

Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:25 am to
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Pretty common knowledge Bama had no business being there




You people act like Bama jumped a bunch of teams to get in. Revisionist history to cope with the arse whipping I guess. We maintained our #2 ranking for several weeks prior. Oklahoma State lost to a 6-6 Iowa State team in week 12.
Posted by The Anointed One
Member since Apr 2017
388 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:26 am to
Bama actually lost at home in a regular season game

You are trying to justified a win in an exhibition game at a neutral site
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:26 am to
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The loss to Iowa State?


was embarrassing for sure.

But they didn't get the nod because they are not Oklahoma or Texas. They're Oklahoma State. a 11-1 OU or Texas with that resume would have gone on to play LSU
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21323 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
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A golden age on this forum. The cockiness of LSU fans going into that game was downright hilarious.


Gumps calling other fans cocky.

This is like New Orleans residents telling folks in other cities, "damn, your mayor is a dumbass."
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16919 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
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As to the game itself, I think it became obvious who the best team that year was.


This is absolutely bullshite and is the reason people hate Bama fans so much. God forbid they admit anyone can ever be as good as their team.

Les Miles put in the worst national championship game coaching performance I've ever seen. That team was held back by the HC and that's a damn shame.

And Nick Saban did not come out with the same gameplan. He came out with McCarron tossing it around and Bama's offense executed extremely well early on, giving them a big advantage with early lead in a defense heavy matchup. LSU's offensive gameplan was beyond inept. And there were no halftime adjustments. 3 and outs, turnovers, and a complete and utter loss of the field position battle were all totally on the offense and allowed Alabama to grind our defense down with the lead.

It was criminal what LSU's offense did to our D that night. That game is all on Les Miles. No excuse to lose 21-0 in that game with that LSU team.

Those teams were very evenly matched talent wise. LSU was just flat out outcoached. That's the value of Nick Saban.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
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but the voters frick the Big 12 champion Oklahoma State out of that game...and no it is not obvious who the better team was


They should have lost to Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl, too. If not for Shaw playing it safe and going for the field goal instead of the TD, Okie State would have had two losses instead of one and there wouldn't be any doubt who the better team was.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
Sorry Bammers I'm only paying attention to and talking about baseball right now. Sorry that we're good at other sports unlike you guys, who are only good at one sport.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
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You are trying to justified a win in an exhibition game at a neutral site


It was a 21-0 mauling in the heart of Louisiana on the biggest stage in college football for the entire world to see how much better Bama was.

Beautiful.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:27 am to
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They're Oklahoma State. a 11-1 OU or Texas with that resume would have gone on to play LSU

Maybe, maybe not. The loss to a bad ISU team would still be a lot to overcome.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:28 am to
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Sorry Bammers I'm only paying attention to and talking about baseball right


Clearly. So focused that you felt the need to jump in on page 5 to let everyone know.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:31 am to
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It was criminal what LSU's offense did to our D that night. That game is all on Les Miles. No excuse to lose 21-0 in that game with that LSU team.

I dunno brah. I don't think Les Miles was magically morphed into the "Honey Badger" and getting smoked left and right. I still remember Musburger saying "Honey Badger better care about that one" after he got beat on 3 plays in 1 drive.

The players for Bama wanted it more and just beat the LSU players on that given night. LSU blames everything on their coaches, it's kinda comical.
That is unless Lennie Fornettical sucks and then it's the offensive lines fault.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:31 am to
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Les Miles put in the worst national championship game coaching performance I've ever seen. That team was held back by the HC and that's a damn shame

The offensive plan was pretty bad, but let's not act like LSU had a QB that had much success against Alabama. In Lee's career, he almost threw more interceptions than completions against Alabama.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:32 am to
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And Nick Saban did not come out with the same gameplan. He came out with McCarron tossing it around


McCarron threw the ball a grand total of six more times in the national championship game as opposed to the first game in Bryant-Denny. The difference? He completed the passes the second go around. We had been throwing the ball on first down all year. What LSU's defense saw in that second game was nothing they hadn't seen before.

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Bama's offense executed extremely well early on


That was the difference. Execution. In the first game we didn't execute nearly as well and beat ourselves with stupid penalties as we got deep into LSU territory. We only had one penalty all night long in New Orleans.

Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:32 am to
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Pretty common knowledge Bama had no business being there


Pretty obvious LSU shouldn't have been there. Remember:

you crossed the fifty ONE TIME in that game. ONCE.

You had 92 yards of total offense that game.

You got outgained 384 - 92!

Bama had 21 first downs to your 5 (LSU had more punts than first downs by a 9-5 margin)

LSU went 2-12 on 3rd down.

Bama outgained you on the ground 150 - 39


You. Got. Dominated. Period. And you've not beaten Bama since. That has to sting.



Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23059 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:33 am to
The year the the committee decided to shite itself and give the national championship to the team that lost at home to the team they're playing.

With every psychological advantage to one side, the national championship was gifted to the team that already gets unlimited advantages.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:35 am to
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The year the the committee decided to shite itself and give the national championship to the team that lost at home to the team they're playing

I don't think there was a committee in 2011.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44840 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:35 am to
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Alabama's game plan was much the same as it was the first time around


They went after Mathieu early and often in the second game. They found the matchup with him in the slot and repeatedly threw those corner routes.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:36 am to
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I don't think there was a committee in 2011.

Definitely wasn't. It was the BCS. I'm sure they'll bitch about that but completely forget that it was the SAME BCS that put the fricksquad 2 loss LSU team in their previous national championship.
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11355 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:37 am to
common knowledge to everyone, except bammers obviously
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:39 am to
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don't think there was a committee in 2011.


It was standard BCS formula

The Harris voters gave it to Alabama. Coaches was really close. Oklahoma State was #2 in computer polls
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