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re: The reason the SEC is getting Texas & Oklahoma...

Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Because I've found I liked most Arkansans and Oklahomans I've ever met.


My personal experience with OU fans is mostly t-shirt fans who get obnoxiously drunk and yell BOOMER at local sportsbars. I am not sure I've ever met anyone in western Arkansas who actually attended the University of Oklahoma.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:11 pm to
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I like Fort Smith. Nice little town.


Fort Smith is an Old West town. It would fit into Oklahoma or Texas more than it would any deep south state. There are worse places to be from.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8583 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:18 pm to
So, do you see more additions to the conference?
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:39 pm to
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Texas A&M is an elite brand in its own right. National appeal. A massive, rabid, loyal fan base (IMO the best in college sports). A top 10 brand without question, arguably top 5 since joining the SEC


Outside of this utter nonsense especially top 5 brand absurdity, which must have been brought by an eight day meth binge, your post was actually pretty good.

No way Tam is close to a top 5 brand nor in the top 10 but I'd say from maybe a highest of 12 to maybe 17 for the lowest.
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:48 pm to
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To suggest that this somehow makes the SEC culturally better demonstrates the arrogance of the "Texases" of the world that most of us wish to avoid.


There no evidence he's from Texas so your reply is ignorant. He replied as a fan of elsewhere acknowledging the fact Texas adds value in every way including culture.

Like it or not, Texas is one of the greatest places in the world assuming one doesn't want hills, mountains or four season weather.

Certainly I'm including the University of Texas liberal propaganda machine nor its warped woke vomit as any cultural heritage in need of being duplicated...but instead destroyed.
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1510 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:48 am to
Idiots are looking at this from a single school's fan perspective (that are posting on message boards). The fact that the SEC was able to get the 2 remaining blue bloods (other than ND) that are left, means every other conference is permanently locked out of the southeast. Say what you want, but there is a divide coming, and the more value you have the more you will be able to throw around your weight in the coming years. The SEC just put up a wall around the majority of the talent in the country.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 12:51 am
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 1:56 am to
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Considered a "public Ivy", their academic programs are highly ranked across the board. Their athletic programs are consistently ranked in the top 20 (if not top 10) in *all* sports. Multiple national title contenders every year.


Working in Huntsville, Al in the tech industry I see very few UTexas graduates. My cousins are Texas-Exs and even they admit that outside of Texas it is just another degree.

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Most lucrative AD in the country


Yes, they sell a lot of merchandise inside of Texas, but outside, not so much.

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when the Longhorns suck, people (and media) still follow and care about them


There you are fooling yourself

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Half their games will be marquee matchups with national appeal and high TV ratings


You are just talking about SEC games, the SEC games are highly rated. As it stands now, UTexas games are not highly watched outside of Texas.

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Plus, and perhaps most importantly, it gives the SEC a monopoly in the most fertile recruiting territory in the land. That would be the state of Texas.


You have a sense of humor. Florida is the correct answer. I will put it like this, how many NC in college football has the entire state of Texas produced since 1970?
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 2:13 am to
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It was literally the No. 1 ranked athletic department last year and won it's 59th national title (4th most behind UCLA, Stanford and Southern Cal) a couple of days ago


In what, Olympic sports? Trust me, if that is the best you can do, you will not be happy in the SEC. You can print the shirts about those titles, but you best get use to being laughed at, Texas's last 2 NC in football are 1970, and 2005.

Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 2:19 am to
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How many NC have the four new schools won in the last 25 years? I know of only 2 in football, none in basketball, 2 in baseball (SEC has won 7 NC in baseball since 2009)


Arkansas won a natty in basketball. And about a billion in various forms of track.



4 new schools, Texas, Texas Am, Oklahoma, Missouri

Arkansas and USCe have been here for almost 30 years
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
3925 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:30 am to
I don't understand why a Texas grad would want to move to Alabama. I agree that it's just another degree when you're out of state, so why move out of state...Texas has many cities with more opportunities than Huntsville.
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
3925 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:38 am to
Who the frick are you to tell me what I can and can't enjoy?

If Ewers is as good as advertised you'll be going against the #1 offense next year in Austin so we'll have a shot to knock y'all off.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3732 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:28 am to
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Say what you want, but there is a divide coming, and the more value you have the more you will be able to throw around your weight in the coming years.


Frankly, I think the refusal to expand the college football playoff is an indicator of what's to come - as well as how the Big Ten attempted to lead a shutdown of football a couple years ago. I honestly give it a better than fifty / fifty shot that the college football playoff ends after this contract.
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
1592 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 6:23 am to
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The SEC was winning national titles in almost all sports and so expanding west (or east) really did not matter

What it did do is put 2 (now 4) more schools at the money plate. I will agree that there will be more money in that plate, but the SEC was doing alright with the amount they were getting before.

How many NC have the four new schools won in the last 25 years? I know of only 2 in football, none in basketball, 2 in baseball (SEC has won 7 NC in baseball since 2009)

I don't know about 8&4 or Mizzou, but OU and Texass have 20 NCAA championships EACH since 2000, I am not sure you could pick any 2 schools currently in the SEC that have combined for 40 titles since 2000.
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 7:39 am to
I can buy the argument that A&M, OU, and TX add something, but Mizzou brings absolutely nothing to the SEC athletically.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 7:40 am to
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You can print the shirts about those titles, but you best get use to being laughed at, Texas's last 2 NC in football are 1970, and 2005
Isnt that better than like half of the SEC?

And nobody’s printing shirts. The post I replied to said “they bring nothing”, which is empirically false. Don’t be pissy that I proved you wrong. If you don’t like those other sports, fine. That’s your own prerogative. I’d rather be good at them than no, though
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 7:42 am to
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You realize that you just admitted that we are Big Bro now?
Nah. They’ve just been an exchange student living away from home for 10 years. All while accomplishing no more than their big brother did (who as going through the single worst decade in its history while you were going through your best). OUCH
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 8:56 am to
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Texas & Oklahoma...
Two of the premier brands in college sports (and arguably the top brand of all)

the SEC is poised to become the undisputed superpower

Texas A&M is an elite brand in its own right. National appeal...arguably top 5 since joining the SEC.

It put the SEC ahead of the PAC, ahead of the B1G, and ahead of the current "Big 12".




Go back to playing Kansas.

Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:07 am to
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How many NC have the four new schools won in the last 25 years? I know of only 2 in football, none in basketball, 2 in baseball (SEC has won 7 NC in baseball since 2009)



South Carolina has won 3 (about to be 4) since joining the SEC. Two in baseball and one (will be 2) in WBB.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 9:09 am
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:02 am to
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I don't understand why a Texas grad would want to move to Alabama. I agree that it's just another degree when you're out of state, so why move out of state...Texas has many cities with more opportunities than Huntsville.



Tell me you know nothing about Huntsville Alabama without telling me you know nothing about Huntsville Alabama.

There is a reason why the Space Command is moving to Huntsville and that one of the world's largest Research Parks is in Huntsville (I think it is the largest in the US.)

Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:05 am to
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If Ewers is as good as advertised you'll be going against the #1 offense next year in Austin so we'll have a shot to knock y'all off.


Before kickoff, maybe, after Kickoff Texas will be down 21 points in the 1st quarter

Alabama 48, Texas 14 (maybe not even that)

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