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The playoff may end up hitting a home run in year 1
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:47 pm
Let's be realistic, the point of the playoff was to make everyone feel like their team got a shot, but still give us a match up between Big 10 and SEC teams who most football experts thought were the best coming into the year.
IF UGA beats ND (I realize UGA might lose, but just taking the higher seed for this one)... we'll have a final 4 with two matchups between SEC and Big 10 teams.
And if UGA and OSU win those matchups, we'll have the pre-season #1 and #2 team meeting in the finals of the playoff.
That's exactly the kind of result that the big two wanted. Every other conference feeling they got a shot, but the big names from THEIR conferences ending up in the finals.
IF UGA beats ND (I realize UGA might lose, but just taking the higher seed for this one)... we'll have a final 4 with two matchups between SEC and Big 10 teams.
And if UGA and OSU win those matchups, we'll have the pre-season #1 and #2 team meeting in the finals of the playoff.
That's exactly the kind of result that the big two wanted. Every other conference feeling they got a shot, but the big names from THEIR conferences ending up in the finals.
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:50 pm to DawginSC
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Let's be realistic, the point of the playoff was to make everyone feel like their team got a shot
Exactly, the under dog doesn't always win. It's those moments every few years that will make it worthwhile.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:53 pm to DawginSC
What is likely to happen is that we see UGA vs Texas matchup. I do not wanna see Dawgs vs Horns for a 3rd time in one year. It would upset me even more as a fan of the sport to see Georgia lose to Texas in the Natty and lose the title to a team they would hold a 2-1 record against this season. That would be a total travesty.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:57 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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What is likely to happen is that we see UGA vs Texas matchup. I do not wanna see Dawgs vs Horns for a 3rd time in one year. It would upset me even more as a fan of the sport to see Georgia lose to Texas in the Natty and lose the title to a team they would hold a 2-1 record against this season. That would be a total travesty
That's fine if it happens.
The playoff champion will have to win at least 4 games in a row against top opponents (as those who got byes would have won their CCG so would still have 4 games in a row).
If Texas does that, they deserver the title even if they beat a team they lost two other games to.
I'm not one of those who thinks it makes a huge difference that teams have played already. It's NOT really harder to beat a team a second time... in SECCG rematches the team that won the first game won the second in five out of 7 rematches. The teams that won the rematch after losing the first game lost the first game on the road.
UGA has an advantage if they face Texas. If Texas wins anyway, they deserve the title.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:15 pm to DawginSC
Georgia has earned 2 victories against Texas already and won both. Asking them to beat Texas again in the same season and the winner is national champs is not only unfair but just wrong and totally unfair.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:20 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Georgia has earned 2 victories against Texas already and won both. Asking them to beat Texas again in the same season and the winner is national champs is not only unfair but just wrong and totally unfair.
So you’re saying it was totally unfair that LSU beat Alabama snd won the SEC in 2011 only to lose to Bama in the Natty?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:21 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Georgia has earned 2 victories against Texas already and won both. Asking them to beat Texas again in the same season and the winner is national champs is not only unfair but just wrong and totally unfair.
Not sure why you're so worked up about this.
UGA already beat them twice (once with their backup). I'm happy to play a team we know we can beat over one we have to figure out if we can beat.
Neither of the first two wins were flukes. UGA didn't play particularly well and still won those games.
I think it's only hard to beat a team a second (or third) time if the earlier win were flukish. A result of a non-typical quarter of football such as a defense that is normally solid shitting themselves for a quarter or an offense that normally takes care of the ball turning it over like crazy or something to that effect.
If the two teams played a normal quality game and the better one won the first game... they nearly always win the second match up too. We haven't had 3 matchups before, but I don't see why it would be any different.
The whole "beating the same team twice is hard" argument comes from when the team that wasn't as good lucked into winning the first matchup.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:54 pm to DawginSC
Everyone makes such a big deal over head to head wins when it comes to ranking teams or giving one team a playoff spot over another and it should be that way.
Giving Texas a shot to finally beat UGA for all the marbles really cheapens the first 2 wins Georgia earned already. Plus when you throw in the fact UGA has lost its starting QB for this game should they meet just feels like the goalpost are being moved on UGA. Texas has done had 2 shots at UGA and lost. Giving them another bite at the Apple for the Natty is just wrong and if they won the game it would feel really gross.
Giving Texas a shot to finally beat UGA for all the marbles really cheapens the first 2 wins Georgia earned already. Plus when you throw in the fact UGA has lost its starting QB for this game should they meet just feels like the goalpost are being moved on UGA. Texas has done had 2 shots at UGA and lost. Giving them another bite at the Apple for the Natty is just wrong and if they won the game it would feel really gross.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:54 pm to DawginSC
Everyone’s team had a shot at the title when the season started. Win and you are in the 4 team playoff as long as you are not 2023 FSU. The expanded playoff devalued losses and turned CFB into an NFL postseason model. As disappointing of a season Michigan fans thought they were having they would have knocked Ohio State out of a 4 team playoff. That would have been a great way to end your regular season if you are a Michigan fan. It is hard to go undefeated or even have just 1 loss when it comes time for bowl selections but winning the title should be hard. CFB wasn’t always perfect but it was its own thing. The media networks have flexed and are changing it. Maybe the masses like the direction it is going. You young folks need to turn down that blasted music……and stay off my lawn.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:58 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Giving Texas a shot to finally beat UGA for all the marbles really cheapens the first 2 wins Georgia earned already. Plus when you throw in the fact UGA has lost its starting QB for this game should they meet just feels like the goalpost are being moved on UGA. Texas has done had 2 shots at UGA and lost. Giving them another bite at the Apple for the Natty is just wrong and if they won the game it would feel really gross.
It won’t matter bc Ohio state isn’t losing to Texas
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:01 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Giving Texas a shot to finally beat UGA for all the marbles really cheapens the first 2 wins Georgia earned already. Plus when you throw in the fact UGA has lost its starting QB for this game should they meet just feels like the goalpost are being moved on UGA. Texas has done had 2 shots at UGA and lost. Giving them another bite at the Apple for the Natty is just wrong and if they won the game it would feel really gross.
I simply don't agree.
Texas was put on the opposite side of the bracket from UGA (as was Clemson and Tennessee, two other teams UGA beat this year). The only way to be more "fair" to UGA was to not let any team UGA beat in the regular season into the playoff.
Just because Texas might be good enough to make the championship game to get another shot at UGA doesn't mean UGA was done badly. It just means Texas played well and got a shot.
I might feel different if UGA played Texas, TEnnessee or Clemson in their first game. But they aren't. UGA could have only faced them if they made the finals.
Oregon has more of a beef. They played a team they faced already in their first game in the playoff. But UGA was treated well by the playoff selection committee.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 pm to semi23
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Win and you are in the 4 team playoff as long as you are not 2023 FSU.
Or a non-P5 team like UCF a few years back.
The fact we're talking about exceptions means that everyone did NOT have a shot.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:20 pm to DawginSC
I’m not saying the deck is being stacked against Georgia. I’m just saying it would feel really gross for those 2 teams to meet for a 3rd time for a Natty and then Georgia lose it after posting a 2-1 record against Texas for the year. Football isn’t basketball or or baseball where playing a series makes sense.
As far as Clemson or Tennessee goes UGA has only played those teams once so far this season. If UGA lost to one of those teams for the Natty then it would be no big deal because it would be a split between the Dawgs and those two teams. That outcome wouldn’t feel or look that bad. It would look awful though to see Texas celebrating a championship and hoisting a trophy up through the confetti while owning a 2-1 record against the team you just beat. At that point it becomes less about being a champion because you earned it by beating a great team and more about you are a champion because you finally beat a great team at the right time and in the right game. That championship would have a huge asterisk beside it and that wouldn’t be fair to Texas.
As far as Clemson or Tennessee goes UGA has only played those teams once so far this season. If UGA lost to one of those teams for the Natty then it would be no big deal because it would be a split between the Dawgs and those two teams. That outcome wouldn’t feel or look that bad. It would look awful though to see Texas celebrating a championship and hoisting a trophy up through the confetti while owning a 2-1 record against the team you just beat. At that point it becomes less about being a champion because you earned it by beating a great team and more about you are a champion because you finally beat a great team at the right time and in the right game. That championship would have a huge asterisk beside it and that wouldn’t be fair to Texas.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:27 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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That championship would have a huge asterisk beside it and that wouldn’t be fair to Texas.
Pretty sure Texas fans would accept that to have a national title.
This isn't even a factor of the playoff being bigger. Texas finished 3rd in the final playoff ranking. If we were using the 4-team rules, UGA and Texas would have been a first round matchup in the 4-team playoff (along with an Oregon/PSU rematch of the Big 10 title game on the other side).
I like the way it was set up better.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:28 pm to DawginSC
So we spend a boat load of money, time and risk possible career ending injuries with more games to get the same results?
Insanity.
Insanity.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:38 pm to DawginSC
I stand corrected. I forgot about UCF. FSU just got hosed by the network committee and should have been in.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:54 pm to RollingwiththeTide
quote:If it happens Texas wasn't given anything. They would have won 4 playoff games in a row, including OSU in the Semis.
Giving them another bite at the Apple for the Natty is just wrong and if they won the game it would feel really gross.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:55 pm to DawginSC
Well if head to head wins matter as the committee ranks these teams every week or if head to head matters when the committee gives out a playoff slot to one team over another then consistency demands that head to head should matter in crowning the actual champion. No way should we all lose our minds if the committee puts in one team over another when the team left out holds a head to head win over the team that made it but because this team passes the eye test or holds a conference championship the committee give team A the nod. Head to head needs to matter all the way or not at all.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:58 pm to BradBallard
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So you’re saying it was totally unfair that LSU beat Alabama snd won the SEC in 2011 only to lose to Bama in the Natty?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:59 pm to Capn_Bevo
If Texas beats UGA for the Natty then yes they would be GIVEN the title considering they would end up with a 2-1 record against the Dawgs for the year.
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