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re: The Darwin Award winners: The University of Alabama
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:22 pm to 3down10
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:22 pm to 3down10
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I don't know how old you, or how old some of these other posters are. But I guess it's just a difference in generations. I saw a ton of this same stuff when HIV/AIDS first happened back in the 80's. The overwhelming majority of them turned out to be completely false. Surely others remember.
But I think the main thing here, for me at least, is that I run a pro/con risk/reward checklist for basically every decision I make.
The tradeoff of doing the following: wearing a mask inside Publix, not going to sit down inside restaurants, wearing a mask in my lobby and hallways at work is very much worth the risk, if I just openly do those things of getting some level of sick, possibly getting my family sick, dealing with the real world issues that will cause (time off, work, an infant in the house, etc). One just outweighs the other, by a lot.
Like I said, everyone gets to run their own risk matrix for this thing, and I don't pretend to try and assess which things matter at which rate for others.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 12:23 pm
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:28 pm to 3down10
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The more low risk people who get it the better.
Are you serious? For something we know hardly anything about?
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To a certain degree that makes sense, you don't want your healthcare systems over run. But outside that you really want people to get it as quickly as possible, get over it and become immune to it.
Do we have studies that say you become immune to it after you catch it?
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:29 pm to 3down10
There is absolutely no justification or excuses for these College Students to behave in this manner. Tuscaloosa County has one of the highest rates of positives to the virus and this is just a finger to those who are the most vulnerable to dying. This mentality is also bad PR to the University in their attempt to convince their children will be safe if they return to campus. 
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:34 pm to 3down10
No one knew or understood at the time that the same virus that causes chicken pox also causes shingles. Immunity gained against chicken pox by becoming infected does not prevent shingles. Anyone whom had chicken pox is susceptible of developing shingles. If people has understood the connection, they very well may not have chosen to expose their children to chicken pox. Shingles is a nasty business.
No one really knows long term effects of Covid, so it really isn’t a smart gamble to deliberately try to catch it.
No one really knows long term effects of Covid, so it really isn’t a smart gamble to deliberately try to catch it.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But I think the main thing here, for me at least, is that I run a pro/con risk/reward checklist for basically every decision I make.
The tradeoff of doing the following: wearing a mask inside Publix, not going to sit down inside restaurants, wearing a mask in my lobby and hallways at work is very much worth the risk, if I just openly do those things of getting some level of sick, possibly getting my family sick, dealing with the real world issues that will cause (time off, work, an infant in the house, etc). One just outweighs the other, by a lot.
Like I said, everyone gets to run their own risk matrix for this thing, and I don't pretend to try and assess which things matter at which rate for others.
That's all fine. I surely wouldn't make you do things to get it etc.
People who are higher risk should take extra precautions also. While I talked previously about how these things can make your immune system stronger, if you have a weakened system already you probably don't need to be out there "power lifting" with a virus that can kill you.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:38 pm to 3down10
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That's all fine. I surely wouldn't make you do things to get it etc.
People who are higher risk should take extra precautions also. While I talked previously about how these things can make your immune system stronger, if you have a weakened system already you probably don't need to be out there "power lifting" with a virus that can kill you.
Agreed
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:46 pm to tigerinridgeland
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No one knew or understood at the time that the same virus that causes chicken pox also causes shingles. Immunity gained against chicken pox by becoming infected does not prevent shingles. Anyone whom had chicken pox is susceptible of developing shingles. If people has understood the connection, they very well may not have chosen to expose their children to chicken pox. Shingles is a nasty business.
No one really knows long term effects of Covid, so it really isn’t a smart gamble to deliberately try to catch it.
No, this is just wrong. You wanted to get chicken pox at a young age is why they did it. Getting it as an adult is extremely brutal. If your parents didn't get you infected with the chicken pox, they weren't doing you any favors.
I had it when I was a kid. It wasn't bad.
The shingles is not a big deal. Even those who go on to have troubles with that virus later usually only have it once. And then it's just a small portion of people, even though the virus is there dormant the entire time.
Sure a vaccine is better, but it wasn't an option.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:04 pm to Jma313
One of the first things you learn about in a virology course is the importance of herd immunity. One of the critical facts of COVID-19 is that it very rarely causes serious disease in young people.
They're actually making a smart choice if you ask me, as long as they wear a mask / isolate for a few weeks.
Playing this "hide and wait until we all get the virus anyway" is the dumbest public health policy in history, and is guided by hysteria.
They're actually making a smart choice if you ask me, as long as they wear a mask / isolate for a few weeks.
Playing this "hide and wait until we all get the virus anyway" is the dumbest public health policy in history, and is guided by hysteria.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:06 pm to 3down10
If you ever have shingles on the face or on the eyes, it is a big deal. It can cause permanent damage to the eyes or blindness. If is extremely painful wherever you get it, and it isn’t really treatable. Typically an outbreak lasts about 10 days to 2 weeks. It can be a serious problem for elderly patients.
I had chicken pox as a child, and shingles as an adult, fortunately, I was a young adult when I had shingles. But shingles are truly miserable.
I get what you are saying, but I’m glad that there are vaccines for both chicken pox and shingles. But we don’t really know the long term effects if COVID, and it really isn’t that hard to avoid for most folks with proper precautions.
I had chicken pox as a child, and shingles as an adult, fortunately, I was a young adult when I had shingles. But shingles are truly miserable.
I get what you are saying, but I’m glad that there are vaccines for both chicken pox and shingles. But we don’t really know the long term effects if COVID, and it really isn’t that hard to avoid for most folks with proper precautions.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:09 pm to AUTubaHerd
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Playing this "hide and wait until we all get the virus anyway"
People aren't being asked to do that at this point...except elderly and compromised. They are just asking people to wear masks and distance and people can't even do that.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:23 pm to Leto II
IF all people of all ages would just use masks in public places and try to social distance whenever possible, we could keep most things/businesses open indefinitely. There is strong evidence that properly constructed and worn masks do reduce transmission rates up to 70% when all are wearing masks.
But, no. We have a big chunk of our population who just do whatever they want with little regard for promoting the general welfare.
But, no. We have a big chunk of our population who just do whatever they want with little regard for promoting the general welfare.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:23 pm to GeorgeWest
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We have a big chunk of our population who just do whatever they want with little regard for promoting the general welfare.
Yup
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:25 pm to GeorgeWest
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We have a big chunk of our population who just do whatever they want with little regard for promoting the general welfare.
It shouldn't come as a shock - the entire political landscape, from left to right and back again makes their entire messaging that people should be entitled to do, say, be, call themselves, etc whatever they want. Nothing is right, nothing is wrong, it's about what you think and what you feel and damn anybody who disagrees.
After a decade of that sort of non-stop avalanche, why would anyone be shocked that people would continue to behave in that manner?
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:29 pm to Jma313
If you really believe that college students EVERYWHERE are not doing the same, then maybe you should be on the Darwin list yourself.
The only reason this is of importance at all is that the media is all in on emphasizing any current crisis detail they can grasp. Period. In the overall scheme of things, this report ranks as a negative 2 on the danger scale.
The only reason this is of importance at all is that the media is all in on emphasizing any current crisis detail they can grasp. Period. In the overall scheme of things, this report ranks as a negative 2 on the danger scale.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:34 pm to Jma313
If true, which I feel it likely is, why have the fire chief running the investigation?
He has enough time and personnel to investigate peoples doctor's visits? Secondly why are the doctor's offices giving out patient information to random fireman?
"We thought that was kind of a rumor at first," Smith told the council members. "We did some research. Not only do the doctors' offices confirm it but the state confirmed they also had the same information."
He has enough time and personnel to investigate peoples doctor's visits? Secondly why are the doctor's offices giving out patient information to random fireman?
"We thought that was kind of a rumor at first," Smith told the council members. "We did some research. Not only do the doctors' offices confirm it but the state confirmed they also had the same information."
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:34 pm to 3down10
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That's all fine. I surely wouldn't make you do things to get it etc.
People who are higher risk should take extra precautions also. While I talked previously about how these things can make your immune system stronger, if you have a weakened system already you probably don't need to be out there "power lifting" with a virus that can kill you.
That is all great if those people who are young isolate themselves with other young individuals. We know that is not happening, it is a mentality of get out of my way, because I am in charge. Look at the hospitalizations and deaths in Tuscaloosa Co and tell me this is just a good way to establish herd immunity. Just a typical stereotyping of behavior for this generation.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:37 pm to Jma313
I made it 19up 19 Dn
You touched a nerve — Kudos
Keep up the good work
Takes some seriously stupid chitt to win a Darwin
You touched a nerve — Kudos
Keep up the good work
Takes some seriously stupid chitt to win a Darwin
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:39 pm to Jma313
No one in Tuscaloosa should be allowed to breed
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:49 pm to Irons Puppet
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That is all great if those people who are young isolate themselves with other young individuals. We know that is not happening, it is a mentality of get out of my way, because I am in charge. Look at the hospitalizations and deaths in Tuscaloosa Co and tell me this is just a good way to establish herd immunity. Just a typical stereotyping of behavior for this generation.
Tuscaloosa has yet to have more than 1 death in a single day, and their positive cases per day is like 30-40. Many of which are young people who are asymptomatic.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:51 pm to Drizzt
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No one in Tuscaloosa should be allowed to breed
shite. Too late.
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