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re: The committee is there to vote "the best four teams" in America into the playoffs.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:03 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Wouldn't the four best be the most deserving?
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No.
Why not?
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Are you somehow under the impression that a team that is not the four best deserves to be in the playoffs?
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That isn't my impression.
Doesn't that contradict the above? And why or why not?
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:03 am to DawgsLife
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Most people think Clemson, ND and one of Oklahoma or OSU will be in. The question is if Alabama will be in if they get beat.
Lol
Bama gets in no matter what at this point.
Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t paid attention.
The questions today are if Bama wins, who gets in OU or OSU. Unless OSU and OU lose, then there’s debate over whether UGaa should get in
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:06 am to coachcrisp
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using that method, only undefeated teams could make the playoffs!
No it doesn’t
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:At that point(when the game was played), taking outside circumstances into consideration, one could draw individual conclusions. Injuries, where the game's played, etc. could have a bearing on the outcome. Going on your opinion, why would there be a college world series process or season-ending NCAA basketball tournament?...think about it.
Crisp should be consistent. If you think the winner of the national championship game is the best team in the nation, you should consider the winner of a conference championship game the best team in the conference.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:16 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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a random shitty team will NOT be in the mix to even be in the playoffs
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Why do you think they would be?
You're the one going on about Conference Champs automatically being the best team in their conference when that clearly isn't always the case...heck you can see this from the Natty game last year...UGA won the conference title but Bama beat them.
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You're posting a whole lot of words based on a false assumption.
What false assumption? No crappy 4 loss team whom might happen to be a Conference Champ is going to make the playoffs for the Natty. Period. Only 4 top tier teams get in the playoffs...that's not a false assumption. You're making the false assumption that a Conference Champ is the best team in their conference when that may not be true.
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Even if you just took the four best conference champions based on SOS, you're NOT going to have 5-loss conference champion in the mix.
Another false assumption...there very well could be, not likely but could be two conference champs of the 5 with numerous losses if your contention is that the 4 playoff teams should all be conference champs.
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Why, being a fan of a school with - by far - the most SEC titles, are you so scared of conference championships? Why do you support making them obsolete?
Yet another falsehood as I am neither scared of the conference championships or making them obsolete. I AM pointing out your wrong assumption using "Gump logic" that the Conference Champ automatically equates to that champ being the best team in their conference...again, this was disproven last year glaringly.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:18 am to Commander Data
Their decision has to be somewhat politically correct though. If it were the 4 best teams, ND doesn't get in this year.
If Alabama beats Georgia, the 4 teams should obv be Bama, Clemson, OSU, and OU.
ND and their weak arse schedule is what's fricking everything up
If Alabama beats Georgia, the 4 teams should obv be Bama, Clemson, OSU, and OU.
ND and their weak arse schedule is what's fricking everything up
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Thanks for confirming that all you really care about is making sure the postseason remains the pageant that it has always been.
WTF are you talking about? The only time Alabama got into the playoffs questionably, they won and showed they should have been in without question. Ohio State on the other hand got a "pageant" invite and proved that was the pageant part you're referring to.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:25 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I asked your opinion...do you think Alabama's one of the best four teams in the country. If you can't/won't answer that, then any conversation with you is pointless. You're a chickenshit pussy for refusing to answer a SIMPLE yes or no question, and everybody on this board sees it by the way you've handled this thread.
I'm not answering a subjective question with an absolute. That's idiotic. I'll say that Alabama looks like one of the four best, but who cares about that? "Eye test" is a stupid way to pick a champion. Champions win. If they don't win today, they aren't champions, champ.
"I'll say that Alabama looks like one of the four best, but who cares about that?"....
what the frick are you thinking?...you're arguing against the exact mission of the selection committee.Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:27 am to Commander Data
Never thought I would miss the BCS. Somehow ESPN even fricked up the college playoffs. Something I wished for my entire adult life.
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:27 am to coachcrisp
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I asked your opinion...do you think Alabama's one of the best four teams in the country. If you can't/won't answer that, then any conversation with you is pointless.
Can you not read? He answered that in the part you bolded..
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"I'll say that Alabama looks like one of the four best, but who cares about that?".... what the frick are you thinking?...you're arguing against the exact mission of the selection committee.
When you’re arguing what the mission of the selection committee should be, what the current mission is isn’t really relevant
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:28 am to coachcrisp
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one could draw individual conclusions. Injuries, where the game's played, etc. could have a bearing on the outcome.
It's the same for any single game, like the NC game. The one seed could've advanced, but lose their QB, then lose in the final.
The FACT is that there's no actual objective way to determine who the "best" team is, we just have to agree on a certain set of criteria to make the determination. In this case we agree that the winner of a championship game is the "best" team of that group. I happen to disagree with using a subjective opinion poll anywhere in the process - UNLESS, we go back to the pre-Alliance days and just have the opinion polls determine the champions and drop the pretense of a playoff.
Either just use opinion polls, or don't use them at all.
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why would there be a college world series process or season-ending NCAA basketball tournament?...think about it.
Do they just rely on opinion polls to determine who makes the field?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:28 am to Weagle25
You are such a condescending JACKASS
Go FRICK yourself to a picture of Gus
Go FRICK yourself to a picture of Gus
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:29 am to Commander Data
Things will be changing soon. People are getting tired of the way Bama is treated. Expect the Big 10 and Big 12 commissioners to pitch fits if Bama gets special treatment again
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:33 am to Hussss
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You are such a condescending JACKASS
Go FRICK yourself to a picture of Gus
Stupid is mad for me calling out stupid. I’m shocked honestly
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:35 am to TideSaint
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Gump
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Reminds me of this
Of course it does.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:38 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Yep. Outside tourney or conference champs, it's up to the discretion of the NCAA.
Do they just rely on opinion polls to determine who makes the field?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:40 am to coachcrisp
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Outside tourney or conference champs
Interesting.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:41 am to Crimson1st
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You're the one going on about Conference Champs automatically being the best team in their conference when that clearly isn't always the case...heck you can see this from the Natty game last year...UGA won the conference title but Bama beat them.
And you're saying that a single championship game is not a good way to determine the best team in the conference, but it is the best way to determine the best team in the country. That seems inconsistent at best.
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I AM pointing out your wrong assumption using "Gump logic" that the Conference Champ automatically equates to that champ being the best team in their conference...again, this was disproven last year glaringly.
So you're saying it's possible that the conference championship game winner is NOT the best team in the conference, but it's IMPOSSIBLE that the national championship game winner is not the best team in the nation?
Eventually we're going to realize that sometimes, like the 2007-08 NFL season, the best team doesn't always win the national championship game. So we'll have to forget about "best" team, and just go with "champions". At that point, we may as well just have a tournament of "champions" - and stop 'voting' on who some people 'think' the best teams are.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:49 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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So you're saying it's possible that the conference championship game winner is NOT the best team in the conference, but it's IMPOSSIBLE that the national championship game winner is not the best team in the nation?
Nope, not saying that but I am saying the Natty winner has a lot more of a claim to being the best because there are safeguards in place where the very top teams are in contention for the title whereas those same standards are not in place for a conference title and they darn sure shouldn't automatically send a conference champ in solely based on that qualification to the Natty playoffs.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:09 am to LSU Alumnus
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Congress exists to serve the people.
Maybe 100 years ago
Since WWII and the rise of mega corporations this is no longer the case
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