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re: The "brilliance" of Les Miles. (And I kind of mean that)
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:56 am to jturn17
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:56 am to jturn17
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he just flat out wins. Year after year, he wins.
Actually the Lsu players win, in spite of Miles. It's been this way for his entire tenure in Baton Rouge.
But WHO coaches those players.... He doesn't always make great game time decisions, but him and the coaching staff do a fantastic job of coaching these guys up. 11 players potentially heading to the NFL..think that is just a fluke? Very impressive job by this staff. They have earned my respect that's for damn sure.
And regarding the OP.... Couldn't agree more with your post minus the 2007 m'fn bit. The big difference b/w Bama and LSU right now is that Bama shows up for every game and we tend to take a few off. Let's hope that changes, like the team in 2011, minus the NCG.
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:00 am to GCTiger11
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People don't want to hear it, but our team was obviously not motivated for the Clemson game. It was a lose-lose situation. You win, congrats for beating the ACC. You lose, you must suffer the embarrassment of losing the ACC. No win situation.
I agree with this. Although I think a better example is Alabama's loss to Utah.
Those bowl games where teams had high expectations and then end up playing in some week bowl game usually don't end well.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:04 am to geauxcoco
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But WHO coaches those players
Miles does, and his coaching decisions lead directly to losses. With a better coach, these same players would have a lot more success than they already have.
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11 players potentially heading to the NFL..think that is just a fluke? Very impressive job by this staff.
Looks like they're jumping ship.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:16 am to proudertider
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, but started that whole "f'ing BAMA" talk
Do you have anything other than him saying once? you are trolling and making it sound like he uses it on a regular basis
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:19 am to Stonehog
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Miles does, and his coaching decisions lead directly to losses. With a better coach, these same players would have a lot more success than they already have.
You mean like all those long field goals Saban called for in the 2011 game with LSU?
ALL coaches take risks. When they work out, the coach looks like a genius, when they don't, he looks incompetant - the difference is that Bama fans seem to take it in stride while LSU fans go apeshit.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 7:22 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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ALL coaches take risks. When they work out, the coach looks like a genius, when they don't, he looks incompetant
This isn't a matter of taking risks, it's a basic understanding of clock management and competent playcalling.
You think Miles was taking a risk by throwing for 3 straight downs when Lsu needed to burn the clock in the Chicken Bowl? No, it was just downright stupidity on his part, not some riverboat gambler type shite. He's not a savant, he's just a dumbass.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:06 am to proudertider
Reading this was like watching someone shite on the back of someone's head that was simultaniously having their nose rubbed in more shite. 
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:12 am to proudertider
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and immediately became as loved by the LSU fan-base as "Mike" himself.
You should jump over to the T-Rant and do a little research on this part.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:19 am to proudertider
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Anyone agree with this assesment?
no
Dinardo, not Saban woke the sleeping giant by starting to get LA kids to believe that it was ok to go to LSU with his "bring back the magic" crusade. Saban walked into a gold mine waiting to blow up. He then took the program and proved that with work, the program could potentially reach an elite level, however in his 5 years at LSU, only once did Saban lose less than 3 games/season. Then Les walks in takes what DInardo and Saban had started and then proceeds to turn it into a consistent top 10 team. At no point has LSU ever won on talent alone. With regard to the 08 and 09 years, one word can sum those up, quarterback. J. Lee was the 3rd string QB going into the season in 08. Perrilloux got busted for fake IDs in a casino and got booted, Hatch got knocked the f out in the 3rd game of the season, so a RS freshmen who has had minimal snaps with the first team gets to make his starting debut in the middle of SEC play. It didn't go well that year. Jefferson took over starting in the Arkansas game(last game) that year. In 09, JJ is a brand new starter. Insert 10, 11, and 12 and LSU is 34-6 over that time period, which is good for second most wins behind Bama during that time, who is 35-5.
The thing about Miles, is he is different and when people don't like different, (which is a majority of the south, since we like our "traditions", etc.) they speak up against it. What Miles has done at LSU is worthy of getting his pay raise. It's silly hard to sustain success for damn near a decade and especially in the SEC when you know every year you are playing Florida and Bama, not to mention whoever else is hot that year. Does he talk different, yup. Does he make goofy coaching decisions, yup. Does he have LSU in position to compete and potentially win a NC every year, yup. He's a good coach, a beastly recruiter, and honestly, the rest of the country loves the guy. He gets more publicity than any other coach I have seen at LSU. The media loves him and he has been good for the program.
Even though my passion for LSU, leads to me getting pissed at Miles for certain decisions he makes in games, if I step back and rationally look at the state of the program, he's done a damn good job and isn't slowing down. 2013 is one of if not the best top to bottom recruiting class we've had ever and LA in 2014 is just plain nasty with talent, so expect next year's class to be top 5.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:19 am to Stonehog
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Looks like they're jumping ship.
Even the players that didnt "jump ship" are better than yours
Also, weve got a top 5 recruiting class coming in again..they wouldnt be jumping on a "sinking ship"
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:51 am to proudertider
I think the Bama fappage in your post is a bit overblown with regard to LSU football being built just to dethrone Bama. I find that a bit much. But then again, Bama is at the top, so what team isn't aiming for them?
08/09 years were bad thanks to a boneheaded QB, and a defensive coaching experiment gone very, very wrong. I discussed with some friends very recently how LSU-Bama have gone back and forth over the years and barring a few key plays, LSU could very well be back-to-back national champions. No sour grapes at all; what Bama has done is phenomenal, but anyone would be foolish to think LSU wasn't just a few yards short of enjoying the same riches the past few years.
Finally, did Miles build LSU to what it is today? Not really. But he has most definitely sustained the machine, which I think is harder.
08/09 years were bad thanks to a boneheaded QB, and a defensive coaching experiment gone very, very wrong. I discussed with some friends very recently how LSU-Bama have gone back and forth over the years and barring a few key plays, LSU could very well be back-to-back national champions. No sour grapes at all; what Bama has done is phenomenal, but anyone would be foolish to think LSU wasn't just a few yards short of enjoying the same riches the past few years.
Finally, did Miles build LSU to what it is today? Not really. But he has most definitely sustained the machine, which I think is harder.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:57 am to 228Tiger
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Looks like they're jumping ship.
Ware & Ford are jumping ship to the NFL because they couldn't start for LSU.
Wing is jumping ship because he may not be eligible anymore and he had proven everything in college that he's going to prove. Besides, he's almost 23 yrs old.
Montgomery, Reid, Minter & Mingo are jumping ship for almost-guaranteed generational wealth.
Faulk & Simon? They're just grabbing at the brass ring I guess.
Let's not pretend that these are malcontent defections. By all accounts, the players love LSU and Miles.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:02 am to Stonehog
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Stonehog
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Looks like they're jumping ship.
We aren't quite the dumpsterfire that Arky is.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:02 am to proudertider
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"Q. Do you regret saying, F'ing Alabama at that rally?
Certainly not one of his finest moments. But this was said at the recruiting Bash in 2007 after Saban had gone into virtually every HS in La and trashed Miles and said LSU would collapse. Miles was rather taken back as the two had spoken periodcially while Saban was at Miami about the LSU team. Saban's constant trashing of the LSU program in Jan and Feb finally caused Miles to boil over.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:03 am to Wild Thang
Gotta admit it's pretty close though, escpecially after that Chick-Fil-A meltdown.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:05 am to The_Pistol
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Looks like they're jumping ship.
I love how this is what all the rest of the SEC "hopes" is the case. Couldn't be further from the truth
And yes, some decisions have not panned out the field by Miles. But in over 80% of his games at LSU he has made the right ones and put a W in the win column. That isn't going to stop anytime soon
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:14 am to proudertider
fricking bama fans....I swear
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:18 am to Stonehog
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Gotta admit it's pretty close though, escpecially after that Chick-Fil-A meltdown.
Nope. Look at the recruiting rankings and tell me who the dumpsterfire is.
Arky one spot ahead of Tulane.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:20 am to proudertider
Interesting- but there is nothing brilliant about Les Miles.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:21 am to Wild Thang
Arkansas never recruits well, yet by some miracle we don't have a problem beating Lsu. Funny, you would think with all your top 5 recruiting classes you guys would blow us out every time. Must be the coaching.
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