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re: The best estimate for OM's penalties I have seen thus far....
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:49 pm to DistrictDawg
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:49 pm to DistrictDawg
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:57 pm to DistrictDawg
What if I told you.......
Some Ole Miss fans do believe that we'll get penalized pretty harshly. And that I personally am tired of our administration and coaching staff lying to us about things that have been happening.
What if I also told you......
That although you bring up some pretty interesting and valid points, you've put way too much energy and effort into this whole Narrative of yours.
Some Ole Miss fans do believe that we'll get penalized pretty harshly. And that I personally am tired of our administration and coaching staff lying to us about things that have been happening.
What if I also told you......
That although you bring up some pretty interesting and valid points, you've put way too much energy and effort into this whole Narrative of yours.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:02 pm to DBU
Definitely triggered.
I'm very disappointed in Ole Miss fans, at the beginning they were all over me saying that I was crazy to believe that the penalties would be as harsh as the OP indicated. I was informed that I was a biased dumb frick.
After a while I proposed a challenge to Ole Miss fans. I wanted them to back up their claim that the estimated penalties were ridiculous, using supported facts and educated reasoning. The funny thing is, the Ole Miss fans disappeared and my challenge was not even acknowledged ONCE by any Ole Miss fans. If the estimations were so ridiculous, prove to me why!!
The thing is, I will probably never get a reasonable response to my challenge. It's not because every Ole Miss fan somehow missed the challenge, because I know hundreds have read this thread and my challenge. The reason I won't get a response is because there aren't any. The estimations are fair and accurate based on previous cases.
Anyway, I'm STILL waiting frickers....
I'm very disappointed in Ole Miss fans, at the beginning they were all over me saying that I was crazy to believe that the penalties would be as harsh as the OP indicated. I was informed that I was a biased dumb frick.
After a while I proposed a challenge to Ole Miss fans. I wanted them to back up their claim that the estimated penalties were ridiculous, using supported facts and educated reasoning. The funny thing is, the Ole Miss fans disappeared and my challenge was not even acknowledged ONCE by any Ole Miss fans. If the estimations were so ridiculous, prove to me why!!
The thing is, I will probably never get a reasonable response to my challenge. It's not because every Ole Miss fan somehow missed the challenge, because I know hundreds have read this thread and my challenge. The reason I won't get a response is because there aren't any. The estimations are fair and accurate based on previous cases.
Anyway, I'm STILL waiting frickers....
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:12 pm to DistrictDawg
If triggered means you wasting time and energy typing another novel that I won't read past the first line, here ya go.
Thread hijack: If we get hammered, will any school from here on out ever cooperate in an exemplary fashion with the NCAA again?
Thread hijack: If we get hammered, will any school from here on out ever cooperate in an exemplary fashion with the NCAA again?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:13 pm to DistrictDawg
It's gonna be somewhat bad but not quite as bad as your saying....
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:16 pm to SouthMSReb
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What if I told you....... Some Ole Miss fans do believe that we'll get penalized pretty harshly. And that I personally am tired of our administration and coaching staff lying to us about things that have been happening.
I would tell you that you should believe that yall will get penalized pretty harshly. I'm not being mean or making shite up, it's all right there in the NOA for anyone with eyes to read. I would also tell you that I would be tired of my administration lying to me too. I realize that the average Ole Miss fan has nothing to do with any of the wrongdoings, and just loves to watch their school play football like any of us. It really sucks for the average Ole Miss fan, because they truly believed that nothing would come of this because the AD told them so. I would have believed it to if I was an Ole Miss fan, until the NOA was released and I realized that I was lied to.
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What if I also told you...... That although you bring up some pretty interesting and valid points, you've put way too much energy and effort into this whole Narrative of yours.
I would tell you.... thanks for the back handed compliment, from an Ole Miss fan, it means a lot. I would also tell you that it's no "Narrative", just fact based inferences. Finally, I would also tell you that while I have put energy and effort into the inferences, I have also had a lot of fun educating you frickers and observing how scared Ole Miss fans actually are of what is to come.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:18 pm to DistrictDawg
You're in "Starkvegas" with nothing to do aren't you?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:23 pm to El Batnaros
You're really coming along. Ole Miss fan #1 in my opinion. For the record I kinda agree with you. I don't think the ceiling is as high as was posted in the OP. I see something like:
22-30 scholarship reductions
4-5 years of probation
1-2 year bowl ban
I think the suspensions and show causes are spot on
This is all assuming nothing comes of the Draft Night stuff. If something does come of it though, well, I don't even have to tell you but.... It's gonna be really bad for yall. Like as close to death penalty as you can get bad.
22-30 scholarship reductions
4-5 years of probation
1-2 year bowl ban
I think the suspensions and show causes are spot on
This is all assuming nothing comes of the Draft Night stuff. If something does come of it though, well, I don't even have to tell you but.... It's gonna be really bad for yall. Like as close to death penalty as you can get bad.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:25 pm to BurnsideStyle
Tunsil allegations have been settled with NCAA. We insisted on 4 game suspension. They wanted 8. Both parties then agreed,and NCAA accepted, 7 games.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:28 pm to BurnsideStyle
Unfortunately.... Since y'all are in bad moods after realizing what is coming and I know y'all love hearing praise about Oxford... I will admit that Oxford is much more fun and a nicer city than Starkville. I love partying in Oxford, it's fun. THERE YA GO.
HOWEVER, it doesn't change the fact that y'all are still fricked.
HOWEVER, it doesn't change the fact that y'all are still fricked.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:34 pm to DistrictDawg
Freeze will still whip Mullen with his hands tied. You still gonna be mad?
Answer my question I initially posed though. Would any school ever cooperate again with the NCAA?
Answer my question I initially posed though. Would any school ever cooperate again with the NCAA?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:49 pm to matthew25
Are you fricking kidding me..... A few Ole Miss fans start accepting their fricked, admitting that the penalties will be pretty bad. Then I give Oxford a compliment. We were really getting somewhere and I was enjoying it.
Then this dumbass matthew25 comes on here and fricks everything up. Read the thread before posting and looking like a dumb arse... I'll help you out:
On page 4 WanderinReb says:
"It's like y'all forget that Tunsil sat 7 games last year and the NCAA approved that as punishment for his shite."
To which I respond:
"You're really stupid. A player's punishment is completely separate from the school's punishment. You're in the middle of one of the biggest NCAA investigations this century and are completely clueless on how it works.
Once the NCAA ruled on Will Redmond's case he was suspended for however many games AND we were docked 4 scholarships and 2 years of probation.
Redmond had a $2500 discount on a used car. Discount on a used car? How do you even define that, aren't used cars discounted in the first place? I mean shite, he still had to buy the damn thing. Tunsil, however, got to ride around in new cars for free for months. $7000 worth of riding around in free cars to be exact. AND his family recieved $3000 in improper benefits on top of that.
Tunsil got his suspension, that's COMPLETELY separate from whatever penalties Ole Miss will receive for allowing him to ride around in free cars AFTER the NCAA had already caught him doing it and told OM to make sure it didn't happen again. Instead of stopping it, OM continued to allow it AND supplied his family with $3000 in improper benifits."
AshLSU then says:
"That's what I have always thought. Wasn't that HIS punishment for HIS role in that situation and not the punishment for OM for their role?"
To which I respond:
"Yep, spot on. There is no debate here about this, it's fact. Ole Miss's punishment for their involvement will be much worse. As a athletic department you are responsible for your student athletes actions. The NCAA notified OM's athletic department when they found that Tunsil was using free loaner cars. This is a VERY pivotal point in time. Whatever Tunsil did before the NCAA caught him and notified Ole Miss was on him, and that's what he got suspended for. However, after this pivotal point in time, anything that Tunsil did was on OM's watch and the athletic department would have to claim any wrongdoing as their own. After OM was notified, Tunsil was given 2 more free loaner cars, and the OM athletic department did nothing to monitor it or stop it. And don't act like they didn't know, he was driving around in Oxford with the cars and showing up to fricking practice in it. Tunsil had them by the balls and they couldn't tell him to do anything, funny that the one of the most celebrated recruits in OM history will be the downfall for them. What goes around comes around.
This is why Ole Miss got the Failure to Monitor allegation, while it is only a level II violation it is probably the worst one for Ole Miss. This Failure to Monitor allegation will either be upgraded to Lack of Institutional control and/or elevate the the other Level I violations against Ole Miss to an AGGRIVATED level I violation, which in itself could cripple a program. Either way, the failure to monitor will most likely end up being the final nail in the coffin for Ole Miss, Freeze and Bjork"
You better read every word of this, it's education day, and I don't want any Rebels left behind. Not even you matthew25. Next time, just read the thread before posting and making your whole fan base look like a bunch of dumb fricks. You should be ashamed, but I'll give you a drop grade on this one, just don't frick up again. I expect a full report on my desk first thing tomorrow.
In the mean time you should check out the letter that my boy El Batnaros wrote to himself, it's an acceptance letter and you can find it at the bottom of page 4. Look at yourself in the mirror and read it 5 times, you'll feel better I promise!!
Then this dumbass matthew25 comes on here and fricks everything up. Read the thread before posting and looking like a dumb arse... I'll help you out:
On page 4 WanderinReb says:
"It's like y'all forget that Tunsil sat 7 games last year and the NCAA approved that as punishment for his shite."
To which I respond:
"You're really stupid. A player's punishment is completely separate from the school's punishment. You're in the middle of one of the biggest NCAA investigations this century and are completely clueless on how it works.
Once the NCAA ruled on Will Redmond's case he was suspended for however many games AND we were docked 4 scholarships and 2 years of probation.
Redmond had a $2500 discount on a used car. Discount on a used car? How do you even define that, aren't used cars discounted in the first place? I mean shite, he still had to buy the damn thing. Tunsil, however, got to ride around in new cars for free for months. $7000 worth of riding around in free cars to be exact. AND his family recieved $3000 in improper benefits on top of that.
Tunsil got his suspension, that's COMPLETELY separate from whatever penalties Ole Miss will receive for allowing him to ride around in free cars AFTER the NCAA had already caught him doing it and told OM to make sure it didn't happen again. Instead of stopping it, OM continued to allow it AND supplied his family with $3000 in improper benifits."
AshLSU then says:
"That's what I have always thought. Wasn't that HIS punishment for HIS role in that situation and not the punishment for OM for their role?"
To which I respond:
"Yep, spot on. There is no debate here about this, it's fact. Ole Miss's punishment for their involvement will be much worse. As a athletic department you are responsible for your student athletes actions. The NCAA notified OM's athletic department when they found that Tunsil was using free loaner cars. This is a VERY pivotal point in time. Whatever Tunsil did before the NCAA caught him and notified Ole Miss was on him, and that's what he got suspended for. However, after this pivotal point in time, anything that Tunsil did was on OM's watch and the athletic department would have to claim any wrongdoing as their own. After OM was notified, Tunsil was given 2 more free loaner cars, and the OM athletic department did nothing to monitor it or stop it. And don't act like they didn't know, he was driving around in Oxford with the cars and showing up to fricking practice in it. Tunsil had them by the balls and they couldn't tell him to do anything, funny that the one of the most celebrated recruits in OM history will be the downfall for them. What goes around comes around.
This is why Ole Miss got the Failure to Monitor allegation, while it is only a level II violation it is probably the worst one for Ole Miss. This Failure to Monitor allegation will either be upgraded to Lack of Institutional control and/or elevate the the other Level I violations against Ole Miss to an AGGRIVATED level I violation, which in itself could cripple a program. Either way, the failure to monitor will most likely end up being the final nail in the coffin for Ole Miss, Freeze and Bjork"
You better read every word of this, it's education day, and I don't want any Rebels left behind. Not even you matthew25. Next time, just read the thread before posting and making your whole fan base look like a bunch of dumb fricks. You should be ashamed, but I'll give you a drop grade on this one, just don't frick up again. I expect a full report on my desk first thing tomorrow.
In the mean time you should check out the letter that my boy El Batnaros wrote to himself, it's an acceptance letter and you can find it at the bottom of page 4. Look at yourself in the mirror and read it 5 times, you'll feel better I promise!!
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:55 pm to BurnsideStyle
It's gonna be hard for Freeze to whip Mullen with his hands tied without being a coach of a D1 football team. You're statement seemed like a metaphor, but obviously it was literal. So yes, I would be mad at Mullen for letting Freeze whip him with his hands tied. That's just some weird kinky shite and I would start to question whether I would want Mullen as our coach.
To answer your initially posed question... If you call blatantly disobeying the NCAA's orders to monitor Tunsil's use of loaner cars cooperating, then yes. Ole Miss will cooperate with the NCAA again as soon as they come off probation in 2021.
To answer your initially posed question... If you call blatantly disobeying the NCAA's orders to monitor Tunsil's use of loaner cars cooperating, then yes. Ole Miss will cooperate with the NCAA again as soon as they come off probation in 2021.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:03 am to DistrictDawg
My god.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:13 am to DistrictDawg
So how are you gonna react when our punishment is no where near what you are yelling from the rooftops here?
What happens if say we get 20 over 4 and 3-4 probation. No bowl ban and no showies?
What happens if say we get 20 over 4 and 3-4 probation. No bowl ban and no showies?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:20 am to GatorReb
I will get on here and humbly accept that I was wrong and congratulate you for losing 20 scholarships. A couple months ago y'all were screaming 9 over 3, so while I would be a little pissed that the COI went light on y'all, I would still be pleased that the penalties were more than double what y'all originally expected.
Now let me ask you, how will you react when I am right?
Now let me ask you, how will you react when I am right?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:22 am to GatorReb
Can I also have millions of dollars and the power to make any girl frick me in this dream world of yours?
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 12:22 am
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:28 am to DistrictDawg
This thread delivers
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:31 am to DistrictDawg
I'd say more like 20 scholarships over 4 years. Three years probation and one year bowl ban, with Freeze possibly being suspended four games to start the season.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:31 am to GatorReb
Also, I stated about 4 posts up that I personally thought yall would get 22-30 sholarship reductions. So I wouldn't exactly say 20 scholarships is "no where near what I am yelling from the rooftops". Only 2 away from my lowest projected amount.
But you can forget no Bowl Bans and show causes.
Let's make a deal. I propose a life time ban bet that y'all will get at least a one year bowl ban AND at the least Maurice Harris will receive a 1 year show cause. So if yall get just a bowl ban and no show causes or vice versa I am banned for life. If neither happen I am banned for life. If both happen, you are banned for life.
Take the bet.
But you can forget no Bowl Bans and show causes.
Let's make a deal. I propose a life time ban bet that y'all will get at least a one year bowl ban AND at the least Maurice Harris will receive a 1 year show cause. So if yall get just a bowl ban and no show causes or vice versa I am banned for life. If neither happen I am banned for life. If both happen, you are banned for life.
Take the bet.
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