DistrictDawg

The last 4(also last 5 0f 6) AP offensive ROY have come from the SEC.
2011- Cam Newton(Auburn)
2012- Robert Griffin III(Baylor)
2013- Eddie Lacy(Alabama)
2014- Odell Beckham Jr.(LSU)
2015- Todd Gurley(UGA)
2016- Dak Prescott(MSU)

Pretty good for a defense centered conference. Even more impressive that 4 of the last 6 AP Offensive ROY's have come from 4 different SEC West schools.

PAC-12: (8)
B10: (6)
ACC: (5)
B12: (4)
SEC: (4)
Group of 5: (2)
Division II: (2)
Ivy League: (1)

This is based on the end of the regular season, so Cutler is not included, if he had been the SEC would have had 5 and the PAC 12 would have 7.

Eli, Stafford, Cam and Dak is all we have. Stafford and Eli are starting to age, if the SEC doesn't start putting out better QB prospects soon, that number may even get smaller.

If your team plays @ MSU this year it would be worth it to drive down for the weekend, with this year being the last one before the LFL is redone. If you're respectful you will be offered enough beer and food to throw up from one or the other by the end of the 9th inning. I can guarantee you will enjoy the trip win or lose.

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Dude, stop before you make a fool of yourself. Pretty damn clear gymnastics is a big deal in the SEC. 1982 Utah
1983 Utah
1984 Utah
1985 Utah
1986 Utah
1987 Georgia
1988 Alabama
1989 Georgia
1990 Utah
1991 Alabama
1992 Utah
1993 Georgia
1994 Utah
1995 Utah
1996 Alabama
1997 UCLA
1998 Georgia
1999 Georgia
2000 UCLA
2001 UCLA
2002 Alabama
2003 UCLA
2004 UCLA
2005 Georgia
2006 Georgia
2007 Georgia
2008 Georgia
2009 Georgia
2010 UCLA
2011 Alabama
2012 Alabama
2013 Florida
2014 Florida and Oklahoma
2015 Florida
2016 Oklahoma
ACC = 0
B 12 = 1.5 (just 1 school)
B1G = 0
PAC = 6 (just 1 school)
SEC* = 18.5 (3 different schools, and Auburn + Arkansas + LSU making "Super Six")
OTR = 9 (pretty much all Utah, but before they joined the PAC) *Missouri had a Top 12 finish in 2010, but before they joined the SEC

Pretty impressive considering these schools in the SEC do not have gymnastics
Ole Miss
State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M (has a good club team, really needs to get a team with all the TX talent) Vanderbilt

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:snoozer: its freaking womens gymnastics.

let's see, a little googling shows me that there are 52 schools that compete, 26 are schools in a power 5 conference(big money athletic departments) and 8 of those are SEC schools. It looks like about 15 of those 26 schools are actually competitive. So basically whoever wins the SEC wins the national championship. It's just not that impressive to me considering the best athletes are already in the south and there isn't lacrosse and water polo to pull from the already over saturated pool of athletic ladies in the south.

Have you ever actually been to a gymnastics game/competition/meet/match/battle royale? If so, is it true that TV adds 10 pounds of weight, or do their backsides look just as good in person?

LFLGBT?

So yall fired Urban Meyer in 2010 because we beat yall? I seem to remember that he got sick or something and then just magically got healed and went on to win a Natty at Ohio State...

Now if your talking Zook back in 05ish, yes he got Croomed. So did Orgeron and Mike Shula. If you lost to Sylvester Croom you deserved to get fired. The week he beat Zook was actually the week following a 9-7 loss to Maine.

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If you're gonna subtract the wins against the lesser East teams and non-P5 teams, then you gotta subtract those games from the total games played. We didn't play 112 total games against teams that weren't in the subtracted categories, we played 65 games, as you just said

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My main point was that UT scheduled and suited up to play in 112 games since 2008. Out of those 112 games, only 10 of them were wins against P5 schools not named Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina or Missouri.

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All the itemized records went through this season - except against the other Big 6 teams. Apparently, you wanted to show a zero win percentage, so you ended that stat at 2014 instead of 2016 because we beat Florida and Georgia this season

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Look a little bit harder and maybe you'll see it this time. I included the winless stretch from 2010-2014, but I put the record from 2008-2016 first. 4-28 vs other big 6 teams with two of those wins coming from this season. You do the math, if I had left 2016 off, it would've read

2008-2015: 2-27

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Record vs the 5 other Big 6 teams:
2008-2016: (4-28) -- Win percentage: 12.5%
2010-2014: (0-18) -- Win percentage: 0.0%

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Total Record:
2008-2016: (57-55) -- win percentage: 50.9%
-Sutbract 7 wins against DII teams: (50-55)
-Subtract 20 wins against non-P5 teams: (30-55)
-Subtract 20 wins against KY, Vandy, Mizzou, USC: (10-55)

Thats 10 wins in 112 total games since 2008 against Power 5 teams not named Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mizzouri, or USC.


Total SEC Record:
2008-2016: (26-46) -- Win percentage: 36.1%

Record vs SEC East
2008-2016: (24-26) -- Win percentage: 48.0%

Record vs SEC East teams not named Vandy or Kentucky:
2008-2016: (10-22) -- Win percentage: 31.25%

Record vs SEC West:
2008-2016: (2-20) -- Win percentage: 9.1%
2011-2016: (0-13) -- Win percentage: 0.0%

Record vs SEC West(non-Big6; MSU,A&M,OM,Arkansas):
2008-2016: (2-6) -- Win percentage: 25.0%
2011-2016: (0-5) -- Win percentage: 0.0%

Record vs the 5 other Big 6 teams:
2008-2016: (4-28) -- Win percentage: 12.5%
2010-2014: (0-18) -- Win percentage: 0.0%

Record vs SEC West(non-Big6) + Big6:
2008-2016: (6-34) -- Win percentage: 15.0%
2011-2016: (4-33) -- Win percentage: 10.8%

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In the SEC East's worst stretch in modern college football history (2010-2016) your team had an astonishing SEC record of...... 19 wins and 37 losses :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

BIG 6 my :moon:

Seriously, if yall had to play in West during that stretch, would yall even have 10 wins?

Isn't it funny that will Butch was building it brick by brick, the real Mason was building what is now the best football team in Tennessee. Hey, you may not be the best team in Tennessee, but that Appalachian Championship was awesome!

This Big 6 thing needs a reevaluation.

It really is amazing that in just 3 years, 6 of the 7 schools in the SEC west have been considered one of the best 4 teams in the country. There will never be a division that will have 6 different top 4 teams in just 3 years. Actually, I would be willing to bet that there won't be a conference, regardless of divisions, that has 6 different schools in the top 4 in a 3 year span.

Some can claim that some of these teams were overrated, but when you have to play each other every year, someone has to lose. In fact, every time one of these 6 SEC West teams lost while ranked in the top 4 in the regular season, it came from one of the other 5 teams.

Bama has never lost in the regular season when ranked in the top 4.

#1 MSU lost to #4 Alabama
#4 MSU lost to #18 Ole Miss

#3 Auburn lost to Texas A&M

#3 Ole Miss lost to #24 LSU

#2 LSU lost to #4 Alabama

#4 Texas A&M lost to Mississippi State


Arkansas, do yall even SEC West?