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re: The alliance is a disaster

Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:30 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:30 am to
Yep
You can bet they will vote against the 12 team playoff
That limits SEC access or you could have majority from SEC as participants
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2408 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:37 am to
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To wait until the ESPN contract expires regarding the playoff scenario makes sense to me. Get more networks in the bid process, if that is possible. I don't understand CBS and NBC not getting involved with college football. I know, I know NBC and Notre Dame but Notre Dame is not the draw they were years ago plus they only broadcast Notre Dame home games which is six or seven a year. It sounded like CBS just walked away from the SEC after the end of their contract without a fight.

The Alliance will definitely try to limit the number of teams from one conference. I fully expect that to happen.
I think you are mischaracterizing CBS's interest in college football.

The SEC was pissed at CBS ever since the last expansion because CBS refused to bump up its payments when A&M and Missouri joined the conference. The only concession CBS made was permitting SECN to broadcast a game in what had been CBS's exclusive window. That got folks at the conference office pissed, and they basically didn't give CBS a chance to get an extension, instead, just taking ESPN's money and the promise that having one network would be better from a scheduling standpoint.

I think that was very shortsighted of the SEC. While CBS was shortsighted in milking the profits from a very favorable contract, having all your eggs in one basket probably isn't a good long term move. I think that CBS will be a player when the next Big Ten contract is negotiated, and maybe Pac-12. Look for ESPN to be out of the picture for those two leagues such that, after 2025, we sort of have an NFC/AFC setup, where the SEC and ACC are ESPN leagues, and the Big Ten/Pac-12 are Fox or CBS (or some combination).

The Alliance leagues may be hesitant to let ESPN have the next CFP contract, or to have it all to themselves. I could see those leagues wanting to make sure that ESPN doesn't have total control of the CFP going forward.

While the ACC is signed up with EPSN through the middle of the next decade, that doesn't mean the two are going to be aligned on all these decisions. In fact, ESPN's facilitation of OU and Texas leaving the Big XII has to concern the ACC, because when they near the end of their current TV deal in 2036, it would be even easier for ESPN to facilitate the move of ACC teams to the SEC than it was for them to facilitate OU and Texas leaving the Big XII (Fox owning some of the Big XII TV rights has complicated things more than you would see for an ACC team making the move discussed).
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
6282 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:11 am to
Man, the writing is on the wall for the Big 12 with this announcement.

Big 12 revenues will decline by at least 50% with the losses of Texas and Oklahoma. It's dead.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15516 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:17 am to
Kinda interested to see how this will impact UGA-GTU, Florida-FSU, USC-Clemson, and UK-Louisville.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:40 am to
SEC is new NCAA

Alliance playing with confederate money
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:41 am to
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1438 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:43 am to
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The SEC was pissed at CBS ever since the last expansion because CBS refused to bump up its payments when A&M and Missouri joined the conference. The only concession CBS made was permitting SECN to broadcast a game in what had been CBS's exclusive window. That got folks at the conference office pissed, and they basically didn't give CBS a chance to get an extension, instead, just taking ESPN's money and the promise that having one network would be better from a scheduling standpoint.



CBS got the deal of the century when they got the 3:30 window for SEC games for roughly a pittance compared to what they were charging for advertising. It was like the SEC broadcasts were covering for any other bad deals they had made. CBS should have bumped the contract when those two teams came into the conference, shortsighted on their part, imo.

It is my understanding that when CBS got the SEC contract the Commissioner gave them a super deal because he wanted the conference to be well known throughout the country. I would say that has worked. SEC games have great ratings. Big tenners want to say that the SEC is not a national draw, I don't agree with them.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
8839 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:48 am to
B10 commish is a woke-arse liberal
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3794 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:58 am to
Honestly it’s all about leverage for TV contracts. The one thing an alliance does for them is bundle up a lot of big markets. I’ll be curious if these schools stop scheduling SEC schools for non Confrence games and try and keep their big OOC games within these conferences going forward.
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:03 am to
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No meaningful changes ….. only hope that they will work together . Acc is locked into a deal for like 12 years ….. with espn. What were they thinking ?


I'm beginning to think this was a meeting to figure out what to do with the remaining big 12 schools. There is no way what they announced was all that came out of the meeting. They just have to hammer out the details on who is going where and then it will be announced.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15516 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:11 am to
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I think that was very shortsighted of the SEC. While CBS was shortsighted in milking the profits from a very favorable contract, having all your eggs in one basket probably isn't a good long term move.
If the SEC wanted to make real money, they'd subdivide the inventory the way the NFL does.

1. SEC CG
2. SEC GOTW
2. SEC East Home Games
3. SEC West Home Games

I wouldn't give a shite if I had to watch the SEC CG on NBC, Georgia home games on Fox, Georgia games at SEC West schools on Amazon Prime, and the SEC GOTW on ABC/ESPN, and the conference would get mudafukin PAID
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