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re: The agreement Demond Williams signed with Washington included a provision. Uh oh, LSU.

Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by GhostofAlfredBlue
Member since Nov 2023
69 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:08 pm to
y'all keep talking about courts which court? a court in Washington state? or a district Court? and what are they going to say? hey college kid you have to stay at this school and play Football for them even though you arent a employee and cant sign a "pay to play" scheme. you also arent allowed to transfer bc you agreed not to in this NIL deal, even thought that is against the standing body bylaws..... why isn't every Big10 university pulling this lol? you just aren't allowed to transfer?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:08 pm to
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That would violate the13th amendment.


Did you seriously just compare SLAVERY to a guy making millions in a mutually agreed upon SIGNED CONTRACT?

Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
710 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:09 pm to
We have to make sure we are talking about the same subjects.
A contract to receive revenue sharing can be binding, however any clause that prevents the athlete from transferring is a violation of legal rulings and a settlement.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11612 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:09 pm to
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We do know what the court will rule. The court has already ruled that athletes have a legal right to transfer and universities, conferences and NCAA cannot prevent athletes from transferring. The contract in question would prevent the athletes from transferring for two years. This clause will certainly be voided. It has absolutely no legal binding


Are you aware of any details in this case that are different from the Xavier Lucas case?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52361 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:10 pm to
Someone has to do it.

Contracts have to be worth more than it's weight in paper.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77614 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:10 pm to
You are suggesting that UW can somehow prevent a free citizen of the US from playing football at another school, man.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:11 pm to
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The courts have already decided the athletes rights to transfer


And the courts also decided with the NCAA until they didn't.

You can jump up and down.. crawl on your back yelling. Pick up a microphone and turn it up to scream even louder. It does not change that courts often have to reign is wildly board rulings.

Or are you seriously saying courts never do that?
Posted by GhostofAlfredBlue
Member since Nov 2023
69 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:13 pm to
they arent contracts because you legally can not sign a contract to play a sport for a University, you can have strongly worded agreements, you might and probably will have pay some money back, but this are not contracts. if some one can show me that a school or a conference can sign Student-Athletes to contracts i will say you are right and im wrong. and even if they are...... Contacts get broken.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:13 pm to
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We do know what the court will rule.


No sir. You know what a previous court ruled. Courts before that ruled the opposite way which is why there was no REV sharing and NIL to be concerned with.

You repeating it will not change that fact.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13479 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:14 pm to
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You are not listening. One more attempt.

You have no idea what a court will rule. It was a by law that players could not profit off NIL. Thus a court case... and now NIL.



Yes, it was a bylaw that was struck down in favor of player rights not team rights. Now they can profit off NIL and as student athletes cannot be paid for play. That is the current laws. If UW wants to go to court to make them employees, by all means do it. End the charade, but as of right now, they are not.

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That alone should explain that the court don't give a damn about the NCAA by laws. Just laws of the land.


They only care if it is preventing the athletes from their rights, not the school.

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And it appears that WASHINGTON is going to seek a court resolution.


Good for them. They will pay a price for that as it will cost them future players knowing they are willing to take you to court and force you to play.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11612 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:16 pm to
I assume the District Court where it is filed…

Who knows what they will say….the landscape is changing by the day.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:18 pm to
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This was broken down very specifically. Demond is pretty much screwed. His agent messed up big time.


I mean eventually, it's going to have to go to court and move up the chain.
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
710 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:18 pm to
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You know what a previous court ruled. Courts before that ruled the opposite way which is why there was no REV sharing and NIL to be concerned with.


You don’t understand how courts work.
The court rulings and the settlement are now legal precedent concerning NIL and transfers.
These rulings are the results of appeals and have been upheld and are now the law.
Any future ruling that is contrary would have to survive appeal.

Again, the right to transfer is now precedent. A contract or agreement cannot violate that right nor can the agreement or contract make exercising that right disadvantageous for the athlete
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:19 pm to
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however any clause that prevents the athlete from transferring is a violation of legal rulings and a settlement.


Until it is reversed or the broadness of it is narrowed or narrowly defined.

Again. As an attorney, you should know that.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:21 pm to
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You are suggesting that UW can somehow prevent a free citizen of the US from playing football at another school, man.


I am suggesting that a free man FREELY entered into a contract and knew very well what it stated.


Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
710 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:21 pm to
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quote: This was broken down very specifically. Demond is pretty much screwed. His agent messed up big time. I mean eventually, it's going to have to go to court and move up the chain.


It’s already been to court
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6916 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Yes, it was a bylaw that was struck down in favor of player rights not team rights.


Correct. Now that we have established that courts have been known to change their position, at some point and university or NIL collective is going to also be protected by the courts.

Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
6741 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Contracts have to be worth more than it's weight in paper.
In principle, agree. But, given current environment, best case they win and wrest a few damages and maybe a slap on the wrist. Doubt that'll be worth the headache and reputation hit for Washington's program.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72275 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Until it is reversed or the broadness of it is narrowed or narrowly defined.

Again. As an attorney, you should know that.

so basically your entire argument boils down to you don't care what current Washington state law says or what the relevant case law precedent is because there is a remote chance a judge may ignore said state law and ignore standing precedent and rule differently? Sounds like wish casting to me
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
4104 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:27 pm to
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You cannot just void your contract in the world or the NFL. Same should apply here. That is how you get the portal under control. Enforce contracts


Any contract can be breached, it is a matter of remedies. As he is not an employee, equitable remedies are highly unlikely. So Washington would be entitled to money damages.
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