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Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:28 pm to
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I’m curious to know more about that reasoning.
reasoning is based on Ability To Score > 40 in a 40 minute basketball game...
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Unlike the law school drop out’s contention


So you're referring to yourself? Nice!
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Why would the DA choose not to have it examined?
to avoid seeing the obvious gangster shite killer miller does and has in there.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:29 pm to
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That's if you can prove he even saw the text. Even granting that, you have to prove what the texts actually mean to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt which ain't gonna be easy bro
I agree. I’m guessing you jumped in at the end of a thread and assumed I argued otherwise simply because I’m an Auburn fan.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7830 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Miller seeing or handling the gun is not required for charges or conviction.




How so? If he doesn't know it's there how can he deliver it with intent?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:30 pm to
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So you haven’t read my posts? Start there. I have stated that proving a charge against Miller beyond a reasonable doubt based on what is publicly available would be questionable.


Then why'd you respond to what I said before we engaged each other? I mean, I'm solid on my position based on what's publicly available and, according to what you say your posts said, you appear that way too so why the dispute on our part?
Posted by OSTiger77
Ocean Springs
Member since Nov 2017
1876 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:31 pm to
Can’t Apple tell them this
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:32 pm to
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How so? If he doesn't know it's there how can he deliver it with intent?
He doesn’t have to see or handle it to know it is there.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:32 pm to
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I agree. I’m guessing you jumped in at the end of a thread and assumed I argued otherwise simply because I’m an Auburn fan.


I'll admit to that, yeah I did, my b on that one. Message boards
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119945 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:32 pm to
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ow so? If he doesn't know it's there how can he deliver it with intent?


What you said isn’t connected to what the other poster said. You can deliver something to someone without seeing it or touching it by driving it up to them. You would have to know that it’s in the car to deliver it to someone actively.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7830 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:32 pm to
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you appear that way too so why the dispute on our part?


WDE24 thinks Miller should have been charged. Do you see it the same way?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Then why'd you respond to what I said
Because what you said was not fully accurate and reached conclusions you couldn’t reach based on “I deal in FACTS”
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:34 pm to
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WDE24 thinks Miller should have been charged.
That’s not 100% true. I think if he were just another 20 year old black kid with a public defender in the same exact fact scenario, he would have been charged.

I don’t know for sure if he should have been.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:35 pm to
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So if Miles got in the car with the gun in his waist band and slid the gun under the clothes before he exited the car at the club, is it not reasonable to assume that Miller never saw or touched the gun like his lawyer claimed?
not even a little bit. Know how I KNOW that?

BC DUDE NEVER MENTIONS WHERE THE GUN IS WHEN HE REQUESTED IT!!!
So obviously that is bc BM already knew where. NOTHING in that text says where to look for the gun.

BM without a shadow of a doubt KNEW the gun was in the car. 100% chance. His lawyer didnt even try top claim that shite bc he would get caught lying. Oats never claimed it either. Nobody has except Gumps online.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:35 pm to
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I'll admit to that, yeah I did, my b on that one. Message boards


Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Can’t Apple tell them this

of course. BUT, the authorities declined to even look at Brandon's phone. It was all about shielding the star player the moment the knew he wasnt the gunman.

period.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45994 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
Sorry I don’t speak Jive- Airplane 1977
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Because what you said was not fully accurate


I do dispute that though because I have availed myself of BM's lawyer's statement and the AL.com articles by people who witnessed the prelim and interviewed witnesses, sources I believe to be the most accurate depictions of what occurred outside of the public docs. I'm confident in my takes as well to this point based on what's publicly available.

quote:

reached conclusions you couldn’t reach based on “I deal in FACTS”


I mean what we have now is the only thing we can reach conclusions on as of 2/24/2023 so IDK what I should have said otherwise.
Posted by Foots51
Salem. Al
Member since Sep 2022
246 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
I don't think anyone can assume that Miller read the text unless he says he did. As I understand it, the gun was legally owned. In this 2nd Amendment crazy country of ours, the young man had the legal right to possess his weapon (legal, but probably a very bad idea), and had every right to ask his friend to return it to him.
I think there were lots of poor decisions made here but, according to the assistant DA, B Miller "broke no laws".
If he "broke no laws" and did not violate any team rules (such as out past curfew if they have a curfew), why would his coach suspend him?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:44 pm to
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That’s not 100% true. I think if he were just another 20 year old black kid with a public defender in the same exact fact scenario, he would have been charged.


I have this terrible presumption it would've happened in that context as well

Like the criminal defense lawyer Whitney Polson said in his interview on Mac & Cube and I'm paraphrasing, BM being who he is likely had resources to address this once things occurred as they did. I think also in that same interview either he or one of the hosts mentioned that after shite went down, UA probably had Miller meet with lawyers to deal with it so that made a difference I feel next to other facts since we have to presume innocence obviously.
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