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re: That's a nice statue you have there Bama. It would be a shame if anything happened to it..
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:40 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:40 pm to phil4bama
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His job was to win football games, not be a social engineer.
That's the kind of privileged Whitesplainin' that got us here. All of have a duty to SPEAK UP . To not SPEAK UP is to be an irredeemable racist. We also have a duty to SHUT UP. This isn't about white peeps talking. To not SHUT UP is to be an irredeemable racist. So to recap -SPEAK UP SHUT UP or you are a racist. Like The Bear.
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:46 pm to m2pro
Down vote. I think we agree on the issue here. I'm just making Bama fans (and all fans) aware of where this insanity goes. Paul Bear Bryant is not even slightly defensible using the Progressive "standards" being applied today. And while it's true that I do enjoy a good sophomoric Gump Troll from time to time, that's NOT what this is. This is demonstrating absurdity through absurdity. They WILL come for that statue.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:47 pm to Drizzt
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I’m on board with Bear Bryant being called a racist. His statue must be taken down! I see why you people enjoy this so much now
I'm 100% against a statue of Bear Bryant being taken down and if there are any bldgs bearing his name I am 100% against renaming them, simply attach a plaque mentioning his W-L record and all his Titles
But don't try to canonize the guy like he's ready for Sainthood, claiming that he helped to break color barriers in Sports is going a little to far
You see I'm very reasonable, you see Bear demonstrated obvious greatness above and beyond the fact that earlier in his career he didn't recruit Black players, so he deserves statues & honors, confederates do not, segregationists do not
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:49 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
I'm looking FORWARD to you explaining the nuances of your Bear Bryant defense to the Prog Mob shortly before they call you a traitor to the cause and beat you with a blunt object.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:51 pm to Lsupimp
Kentucky has statues of 4 black players out front, we good.
I hope.
I hope.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:54 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Just admit that you really don't know what you're talking about here.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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You think Bryant didn't know black athletes would help him win games in 1946 and 1947? Or 1959? That doesn't make any sense.
Bear Bryant was definitely the most powerful man in the State of Alabama at that time, if Bear Bryant wanted Black Players, with all the power he wielded, he could have found a way to get them if he really wanted
He was arrogant, Bear thought the players HE CHOSE were all it took to win at a high level, how dare outside agitators TELL HIM that he needed to recruit Black Players, he wasn't alone many-most Deep South CFB Coaches felt the same way
My theory is that with all the power that Bryant had, he could have Recruited Black Players maybe a decade earlier than did, not enough of a sin to remove statues or rename bldgs IMO
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:05 pm to pvilleguru
Tell me what I don't know?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:07 pm to Lsupimp
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I'm looking FORWARD to you explaining the nuances of your Bear Bryant defense to the Prog Mob shortly before they call you a traitor to the cause and beat you with a blunt object.
Dude, Bear ain't in the same class of scumbaggery as the strom thurmonds of the world and the r e lees of the world
It is not even close
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Bear Bryant was definitely the most powerful man in the State of Alabama at that time, if Bear Bryant wanted Black Players, with all the power he wielded, he could have found a way to get them if he really wanted
No, no he wasn't. The man who ran state government almost uninterrupted from 1963-1979 was, and it's well known that he made plenty of phone calls to University president Frank Rose making it clear that if the football program integrated funding would be cut and there'd be hell to pay.
Wallace, the Governor of the State, stood in the schoolhouse door in 1963 - Bryant had African Americans on his spring roster less than 4 years later in 1967 who ended up deciding to leave due to family issues (it is extensively discussed, with first-hand accounts, in the Saturday's in the South documentary).
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He was arrogant, Bear thought the players HE CHOSE were all it took to win at a high level, how dare outside agitators TELL HIM that he needed to recruit Black Players, he wasn't alone many-most Deep South CFB Coaches felt the same way
This is completely made up and based on absolutely nothing factual or written historically. Find me one historical account that speaks of this supposed attitude. Just completely made up.
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My theory is that with all the power that Bryant had, he could have Recruited Black Players maybe a decade earlier than did, not enough of a sin to remove statues or rename bldgs IMO
Your theory is literally based on nothing but things you think and absolutely no historical reference whatsoever.
Your theory is that Bryant could have recruited black players before black students were even admitted to the University of Alabama? Before Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door? That's your theory? Well hell, who could argue with that.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:14 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:The university didn't even integrate until 1963 and even then the Governor stood in the door to prevent it.
My theory is that with all the power that Bryant had, he could have Recruited Black Players maybe a decade earlier than did, not enough of a sin to remove statues or rename bldgs IMO
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:16 pm to pvilleguru
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The university didn't even integrate until 1963 and even then the Governor stood in the door to prevent it.
The fact that this guy wants to present himself as a knowledgable academic who is teaching all of us things we don't know is pretty hysterical.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:19 pm to RTRcdub
Yes he did
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:19 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Same class ? Ok . I'm sure the Progressive Race Mob that has or is demanding to take down the statues of all Confederates, George Washington, Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, Ulysses S Grant (lol), Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Mount Rushmore ,various SCOTUS judges and even a freaking ABOLITIONISTS statue, will calmly LISTEN AND REASON their way through your argument not to topple a statue for this guy:
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And Bryant was actively recruiting black players for a few years before he actually got one to sign.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:32 pm to Lsupimp
Please tear this down, its offensive and an embarrassment next to the statues of Coach Stalling's and The Bear....Of course Saban had the final say in the design.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:37 pm to pvilleguru
Doesn't matter. The Bear presided over the most celebrated program in the deep south during segregation and as the photo above "proves", he "consorted" with the powerful racist Democrats of his time who oppressed blacks, including the most noted segregationist of the era, George Wallace. That's even worse to The Prog Race Mob than being an abolitionist (which most of them can't define) .
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:45 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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He was arrogant, Bear thought the players HE CHOSE were all it took to win at a high level, how dare outside agitators TELL HIM that he needed to recruit Black Players, he wasn't alone many-most Deep South CFB Coaches felt the same way
This is factually incorrect. Bryant tried to recruit black athletes in the 50s. There are black athletes from those eras that attest to Bryant trying to recruit them.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:49 pm to secuniversity
So it took 21 years of recruiting black athletes to finally sign one?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:49 pm to Lsupimp
In SanFrancisco the BLM bunch pulled a statue of Grant over the other night. This is the man who commanded the northern army which defeated the gray coats in the war of northern aggression. He did more to win the war and free the slaves than any one man alive at the time. This is not a protest. It’s an excuse to have a riot.
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