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re: Texas offense Red Zone ranking - the Melt of MtVernon

Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:28 am to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:28 am to
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You have no idea what Arch is or isn't. No data to pull from other than sporadic Pop Warner appearances.


He couldn't beat out Quinn Ewers. Why don't you just start there?
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:28 am to
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That's my problem. I don't want Pete Carroll dammit. I want knuckles and blood. I want a running game


They had a great run game with Bush/Lendale White. Kiffin led the SEC in rushing his first 3 years at Ole Miss and was 2nd last year I believe. This year Ole Miss just didn't have the RBs and the OL was lackluster. Goal line is all about winning matchups so you have to have the talent. DLs are way better than OLs at the moment also.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:29 am
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:29 am to
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We are the only team in college football who made the playoffs both of the last two years.. and you want to get rid of the guy.. Good lord.


And we will probably be back again to be honest. But not to win - just to make a showing.

Or do we want the next level?

And alongside NIL - it kills me how Sark gets all the credit.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:31 am to
I'm starting to understand how a program like Texas can wander in the wilderness for 15 years.
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:31 am to
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He got hurt before the season started..


Baxter was 80% the size of Derrick Henry.
Posted by HorninHouston
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:32 am to
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And alongside NIL - it kills me how Sark gets all the credit.


Especially when our best unit, BY FAR, is the defense. I guess he should get credit for hiring a great DC. Now if he'd only hire an OC.
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:33 am to
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Yeah, our redzone offense was better than yours.


Saban could override when he felt it necessary. You think Saban is running that fricking pitch out from the 1-yd line when down by 7 in the 4th?
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:36 am to
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He couldn't beat out Quinn Ewers. Why don't you just start there?


That's *is* where I'm starting idiot. Whose judgement do you think this thread is questioning? Sark's!
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:39 am to
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Especially when our best unit, BY FAR, is the defense.


Precisely. And also, how often did we get burned on fake punts because our head coach was too busy staring at his plays and thinking what to call when he gets the ball. And then he didn't get the ball.

The man is an OC.
Posted by HorninHouston
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:40 am to
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The man is an OC.


or he should hire one so he can focus on being HC. It's clear he can't do both.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:42 am to
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or he should hire one so he can focus on being HC. It's clear he can't do both.


If Sark were a natural HC he would already be one without being told what to do.
Posted by GatorBait24
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:43 am to
Who said he was a godsend? I imagine most coaches could win with your talent more than not.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:43 am to
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That's *is* where I'm starting idiot. Whose judgement do you think this thread is questioning? Sark's!


Sarkisian doesn't get to exercise your 20/20 hindsight. When something doesn't work anything sounds good. Doesn't make you brilliant. Manning sat on that bench for 2 years behaving himself like a good boy. Fierce competitors take what they want. I don't see that.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:46 am to
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If Sark were a natural HC he would already be one without being told what to do.


Good point. Time will tell if he can grow into one. He's not going anywhere unless he wants to so buckle up.
I just hope that when we see the same issues on offense with Arch that fans don't unload their fury on arch and look at the guy coaching him. Those false starts, ineffective red zone plays, and, at times, terrible ol play don't leave with Quinn. They remain.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:52 am to
I watched more Texas football this season than I ever have bc they’re in the conference now.

I can say this much: Sark seems to lack the coaching nerve or ability to line up and run at you consistently so he’s gone all in on the motion, jet side to side, and constant misdirection he employs throughout games.

That being said, this strategy could be the exact reason why he fails in red zone. Things are much simpler for the defense once you get inside someone’s 20. You have a confined space to pass so a lot of smoke and mirrors doesn’t work with no fear of going over the top and you pretty much have to have the ability to run the ball straight at people and not be cute. Sark loves being cute.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:54 am to
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And we will probably be back again to be honest. But not to win - just to make a showing.

Or do we want the next level?

Are y'all fricking crazy?

We were not supposed to be in the game against Ohio State. They had better, more experienced talent, across the board.. yet we coulda/shoulda/woulda won that game.

That is coaching. Our coaching put us in the spot where we failed.

Did we make mistakes? Yes. Are they correctable? Yes.

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And alongside NIL - it kills me how Sark gets all the credit.

Sark completely changed the culture at Texas.. in an NIL world.. That's hard to do imo. Sure, we got some players because of NIL, but we don't just outbid everyone. Time and time again, we get outbid, and we let that player go.

Posted by TX Tea
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:55 am to
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Najee Harris won the Doak Walker Award in 2020. His backup was Brian Robinson. Devonte Smith was the Heisman winner and Waddle played for parts of the season. Mac Jones could actually throw the football over the LOS and was always on time. Ewers would not start on that team.


Exactly, and Sark did pretty well with that talent. Would any coach have won with that group? That is the main question. I can think of a few OC's Texas has had that could have screwed it up.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:59 am to
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Did we make mistakes? Yes. Are they correctable? Yes


Then why didn't he correct any of them from last season? I don't see the improvement. I did see a team that kept shitting themselves on fake punts. I guess that's different.
What we think doesn't matter. Sark is going nowhere but I do think the criticism is warranted.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:00 am to
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wait, yall thought sark was a great coach? B tier in the SEC

3 years with BK, 0 playoff appearances.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:02 am to
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I just hope that when we see the same issues on offense with Arch that fans don't unload


I'm hoping Arch has some Peyton in him. Peyton didn't put up with shite. Hopefully Arch won't either.
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