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Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:24 pm to
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And oh yeah, look into Robert Putnam's research into diversity.

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Putnam says, however, that "in the long run immigration and diversity are likely to have important cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental benefits."

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Putnam denied allegations he was arguing against diversity in society and contended that his paper had been "twisted" to make a case against race-conscious admissions to universities. He asserted that his "extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society."
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:33 pm to
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The White race in the US is the only race that has a majority support for freedom of speech, for gun rights.

Not a whole lot of pigment in Moms Demand Action or Everytown For Gun Safety.

Trump unilaterally ordered the ATF to reclassify bump stocks as machine guns, has voiced support for red flag laws and universal background checks, congratulated the Governor of Florida after he signed Red Flag orders into law and raised the age to purchase any gun to 21, and has said he would think about a suppressor ban.

Our Constitutional rights are under attack by everyone, regardless of their race or political affiliation.

But people like you are too invested in only seeing what blacks or (((they))) do to realize that, and that's exactly why our rights continue to be eroded.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:34 pm to
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(((they)))


I wish I didn't know what this meant
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:37 pm to
I'd be shocked if a brief search thru InGAButLoveBama's posts didn't turn up his/her use of (((it))).

ETA- There it is
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(((Finebaum))), (((Wolken))), for some reason, these guys think they are avatars of racial justice, meanwhile, their kin in Israel are massacring unarmed Palestinians almost every day.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:44 pm to
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re: Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletesPosted on 6/30/20 at 8:33 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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The White race in the US is the only race that has a majority support for freedom of speech, for gun rights.

Not a whole lot of pigment in Moms Demand Action or Everytown For Gun Safety.

Trump unilaterally ordered the ATF to reclassify bump stocks as machine guns, has voiced support for red flag laws and universal background checks, congratulated the Governor of Florida after he signed Red Flag orders into law and raised the age to purchase any gun to 21, and has said he would think about a suppressor ban.

Our Constitutional rights are under attack by everyone, regardless of their race or political affiliation.

But people like you are too invested in only seeing what blacks or (((they))) do to realize that, and that's exactly why our rights continue to be eroded.


Do your research. I am referring to the findings of public opinion polling. Polls consistently show that only Whites have a majority that consistently supports free speech and gun rights, property rights, etc.

I don't deny that Trump is weak on these things. The Republican establishment has successfully pushed him away from his campaign agenda. Paul Ryan and McConnell rolled him on healthcare, the wall, immigration, foreign wars.

By the way, when asked about affirmative action in one poll, Jews are the only group that on average, favored it more when told that it would hurt White Americans. I am not saying all Jews feel this way, but it is instructive nonetheless. I don't get why people are in denial about the deep anti Gentilism among many Jews. The Jewish Talmud in fact says that Christ is forever boiling in his own excrement.

And I don't believe that Gentiles have always been to blame for conflict with Jews. To think otherwise would be to make Jews some special race. And that is racist by the classical definition.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:02 pm
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:53 pm to
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re: Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletesPosted on 6/30/20 at 8:24 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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And oh yeah, look into Robert Putnam's research into diversity.

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Putnam says, however, that "in the long run immigration and diversity are likely to have important cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental benefits."

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Putnam denied allegations he was arguing against diversity in society and contended that his paper had been "twisted" to make a case against race-conscious admissions to universities. He asserted that his "extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society."


Of course he found ways to continue to praise diversity. First, he is an academic and you have no idea how much pressure there is to NOT seem racist, to NOT seem to worship diversity. EVERY major school now has an office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for goodness sake. There are serious consequences for deviating.

Second, I brought up his findings on social trust. That last sentence you quoted says he still sees benefits from diversity, "including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society." That is circular reasoning!
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:04 pm to
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Of course he found ways to continue to praise diversity. First, he is an academic and you have no idea how much pressure there is to NOT seem racist, to NOT seem to worship diversity. EVERY major school now has an office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for goodness sake. There are serious consequences for deviating.



And here is one problem.

You have no problem using his study/findings but whenever he wants to make comments about it or correct misunderstandings. "He is only doing that because he doesn't want to seem racist." He seemed to be referring exactly to people like you who misunderstand his findings and use it for your own agenda.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:06 pm to
Ok, but what did he say diversity did? Besides saying that it promoted racial and cultural diversity? Do you not see the circularity here? Regardless, I was talking about social trust!

It sure would be helpful if you or he explained the benefits of diversity aside from diversity. I am sure there are some, but do tell us what they are! I am not totally opposed to diversity. Personally, I love ethnic food, but don't see why we need a majority non white nation to have loots of ethnic food here. But still, I am open to learning. What are the benefits? Are they worth the hit on social trust and national unity?
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:10 pm
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:54 pm to
I'm not 100% sure. I haven't read the full study and it seems to actual look at the whole thing you need to pay for it, at least from what I have found. I believe the overall summary was diversity caused issues of trust in the short term but the other benefits, cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental appear or are likely to appear in the long term.

I do know one thing. I found those quotes that I posted above within a few mins of looking. It seems that people are misinterpreting his findings very often and using them for a different purpose.

Its a major issue if we use a study or finding but refuse to take into account what the writer says about the overall study because it no longer suites are purpose. We have to take everything into account or disregard the study as a whole. We can't just take certain aspects we like about it.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:55 pm to
Smells like Daniel in here....
Posted by 19
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:19 am to
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Blaggie = Black Aggie
Waggie = White Aggie

What do they call the Latino Aggies in College Station? Asian Aggies?


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Posted on 7/1/20 at 12:19 am to
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Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:21 am to
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Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletes
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texag7


Not surprised.
Posted by Hogfan13
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:47 am to
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I misread your comment, it sounded to me like I was being called one of the board's racist


Oh, you definitely are. Racism goes in a lot of different directions. You don't think of yourself as one because of which way you go with it, but you are definitely a gigantic racist.
Posted by Numberwang
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:31 am to
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just cancel the season already


the way shite is going right now, this would be the best move for CFB.

I don't plan on spending any money on college sports this school year, apart from baseball.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:26 pm to
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re: Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletesPosted on 6/30/20 at 8:37 pm to rockiee
I'd be shocked if a brief search thru InGAButLoveBama's posts didn't turn up his/her use of (((it))).

ETA- There it is
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(((Finebaum))), (((Wolken))), for some reason, these guys think they are avatars of racial justice, meanwhile, their kin in Israel are massacring unarmed Palestinians almost every day.


I absolutely stand by what I wrote. Why do you tolerate Jewish supremacism and hypocrisy? Are you that much of a cuck? What makes Jews better than you?
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:28 pm to
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re: Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletesPosted on 7/1/20 at 9:47 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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I misread your comment, it sounded to me like I was being called one of the board's racist


Oh, you definitely are. Racism goes in a lot of different directions. You don't think of yourself as one because of which way you go with it, but you are definitely a gigantic racist.



I absolutely am race conscious and accept racial reality. But I harbor no hate for anyone simply because of their race. None at all. I actually want freedom of association, and would not want to live in an all white nation, but I do want to live in a majority White nation. And guess what? Most non Whites prefer to live in a majority White nation. Otherwise, why do so many come here?
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:33 pm to
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I absolutely stand by what I wrote. Why do you tolerate Jewish supremacism and hypocrisy? Are you that much of a cuck? What makes Jews better than you?

Well Hans, I guess you and your brown shirt buddies are getting ready to goose step into the holiday weekend.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Why do you tolerate Jewish supremacism and hypocrisy?
Where did I say that I do?
Where have Wolken or Finebaum defended Israel's use of force against Palestinians? Or are they all part of the ZOG Machine?
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 1:33 pm to
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re: Texas Aggy fans hurling racist abuse towards student athletesPosted on 6/30/20 at 9:54 pm to InGAButLoveBama
I'm not 100% sure. I haven't read the full study and it seems to actual look at the whole thing you need to pay for it, at least from what I have found. I believe the overall summary was diversity caused issues of trust in the short term but the other benefits, cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental appear or are likely to appear in the long term.

I do know one thing. I found those quotes that I posted above within a few mins of looking. It seems that people are misinterpreting his findings very often and using them for a different purpose.

Its a major issue if we use a study or finding but refuse to take into account what the writer says about the overall study because it no longer suites are purpose. We have to take everything into account or disregard the study as a whole. We can't just take certain aspects we like about it.


You don't need Chinese people to make awesome Chinese food, unless you think that knowing how to make Chinese food is genetic, which seems kinda racist right?

Do be specific about the benefits. How is diversity in the US helpful fiscally, when only Whites and Asians in aggregate, pay more in taxes than they take? How is massively increased population due to massive legal and illegal immigration good for the environment, for the cost of housing?

Putnam, a good White liberal, was dismayed and shocked to find a huge negative for diversity and is trying his best to put a positive spin on his findings. He studied social trust in particular, so till he does a study proving that there are benefits, you are just spreading his conjecture.
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