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re: Texas A&M/Missouri to the SEC decision could happen soon
Posted on 8/2/11 at 10:44 pm to Tiger Authority
Posted on 8/2/11 at 10:44 pm to Tiger Authority
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aTm and FSU make sense. Missouri doesn't even if it would take our product into another area of the country.
Somewhere a village is missing its idiot.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 8:31 am to pvilleguru
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Let them go join the pac12 or big 10. We don't want them
+1000
Posted on 8/3/11 at 8:36 am to LSUEnvy
Envy, why wouldn't you want more money? Change isn't always bad. It's not like the SEC wants to brung in Stanford or USCw. It's A&M. We are right next door. Bring us over and cash the checks
Posted on 8/3/11 at 9:51 am to Big Kat
Has anyone mentioned GaTech as a possible candidate?
Posted on 8/3/11 at 9:56 am to CharlesLSU
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Has anyone mentioned GaTech as a possible candidate?
Only off and on over, say, the last 3-4 pages.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:02 am to Quidam65
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Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:05 am to Big Kat
Texas A&M to the SEC West is a given. I haven't seen practically any SEC fans against having them join. The problem is that what works best is adding a team to the SEC East as well to balance out adding A&M to the SEC West.
I'm not crazy about Mizzou, but if they are the SEC's only decent option in adding a decent program and expanding TV market share then I can live with them IF (and only if):
1) They agree to be added to the SEC East. Therefore avoiding the clusterfrick of re-aligning the divisions.
I'm not crazy about Mizzou, but if they are the SEC's only decent option in adding a decent program and expanding TV market share then I can live with them IF (and only if):
1) They agree to be added to the SEC East. Therefore avoiding the clusterfrick of re-aligning the divisions.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:01 am to Govt Tide
Posted on 8/3/11 at 2:24 pm to Smoke Ring
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First step, Super Conferences, next step--Mega Conferences?
That plan is
I like the idea of breaking away from the NCAA but 20 team leagues?
Posted on 8/3/11 at 2:51 pm to Govt Tide
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20 team leagues?
This is effectively eight 10 team leagues. Things are going to get quite scrambled and it won't look the same. Playoff advocates may finally get their wish if you separate the wheat from the chaff like this will do.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 3:09 pm to Govt Tide
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Texas A&M to the SEC West is a given. I haven't seen practically any SEC fans against having them join. The problem is that what works best is adding a team to the SEC East as well to balance out adding A&M to the SEC West.
I agree with this 1000%.
We're hearing very little resistance to adding A&M to the West. They are a good fit.
But adding A&M AND Mizzou to the West is going to ruffle some feathers.
Far better to (some of you will HATE this analogy) add teams the way we added states to the union oh say back in 1820 when the Missouri Compromise was born.
One team to the West, one team to the East. Keeps the balance.
And the more I marinate on it, the more I think Florida State is far and away the best candidate to join the East. Yes, we already have the Gators but Florida is a huge state (18 million and growing) and I saw this poll that says 30% of Floridians are Gator fans while 20% are Seminole fans. LINK
20% of 18.8 million is nearly a million more people than live in Mississippi or Arkansas.
The problem with FSU, however, is that Bobby Bowden was too skeered to play a SEC schedule:
LINK
Maybe Jimbo Fisher feels differently. We shall see...
If FSU rebuffs us, I'd take any other team from the Eastern time zone that is willing to join and would be a good addition. But I think adding two teams from west of the Mississippi and none from the Eastern time zone should be a last resort if the league decides it absolutely must add two teams and can't persuade any worthy candidate from the Eastern time zone to join.
There's good precedence for this. It's exactly what the SEC did the last time it expanded. One team from west of the Mississippi and one from the Eastern time zone.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 3:17 pm to pdxlsufan
Just add A&M to the West and VT or UNC to the East. I'm not sold on adding Mizzou.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 4:59 pm to TopWaterTiger
Agree with nearly everyone who seems to be for aTm joining but not Missouri. For Arkansas Columbia really isn't that far away, it would actually be as close as Ole Miss or any other SEC opponent for us. I just don't think they are a good fit.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 5:54 pm to AporkalypseNow
Missouri wants to be in the big ten. Last year they practically whored themselves out to the big ten but lost to Nebraska.
I say the SEC should add Virginia Tech and Florida State. No reason to add Texas schools. Let them wallow in their own crapolence when Texas goes indy or goes to the big ten or whatever.
I say the SEC should add Virginia Tech and Florida State. No reason to add Texas schools. Let them wallow in their own crapolence when Texas goes indy or goes to the big ten or whatever.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 5:59 pm to pdxlsufan
I don't think UF will vote for FSU if there's an actual vote.
1) UF covers the entire FL market.
2) FSU would add the Panhandle (big deal)- you could argue that their game would be televised at a different time but how many SEC games can be aired at one time?
3) UF doesn't want to help FSU with SEC money
4) They had their chance and blew us off for the mighty ACC
5) I think they like their spot in the SEC for football. They should basically make a BCS bowl every year and it's a much easier path to the title game.
HELL NO!!!!
1) UF covers the entire FL market.
2) FSU would add the Panhandle (big deal)- you could argue that their game would be televised at a different time but how many SEC games can be aired at one time?
3) UF doesn't want to help FSU with SEC money
4) They had their chance and blew us off for the mighty ACC
5) I think they like their spot in the SEC for football. They should basically make a BCS bowl every year and it's a much easier path to the title game.
HELL NO!!!!
Posted on 8/3/11 at 6:18 pm to bfniii
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that seems incredibly hard to believe especially given that maryland is significantly larger than va tech.
Dude I lived in Baltimore, Maryland for 5 years when I was stationed in the military. Nobody and I mean almost nobody in that town cares about the Terps. My question to you is have you actually been to college parks campus? Also have you been to Blacksburg, VA? I have been to both of those campus and can tell you that VA tech is a lot bigger and has better facilities then college park does. My ex-girlfriend attended Radford University which is 10 min away from Blacksburg. You do know that Va Tech graduates usually take jobs in the DC, Baltimore, Richmond area right? Also Maryland college football is considered a big joke in Baltimore they are not particularly good even in the ACC. That is why more people tend to gavitate to Penn St. and Va Tech football. However college football is not the most popular sport in that area. That area has alot of Redskin, Raven and Steeler fans.
BTW you might want to do a little research before you spout out false facts as if they were truths.
Maryland campus size is 125-acre. Va Tech campus size is 2600-acre. Dude College Park is not even 1/10 the size of Va Tech.
Also Va Tech sales out there football games in Lane Stadium at 66233 attendance. The university of Maryland stadium has a capacity of 54000. Also the terps do not sale out there stadium unless they are playing someone big and they bring alot of fans with them. VA tech stadium is almost always sold out.
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it seems to me it would make more sense to grab a ncar school before va tech. you would get the fast growing triangle market, would get natural rivalries and would be geographically close. heck, i'd much rather have virginia than va tech.
You do know that nobody in North Caroline gives a crap about college football right. Atleast not anyone in there University considering how they just fired there Head Coach last week. The only thing the Tar Heels care about is basketball. So you really add almost nothing. Also Richmond is not rural and like I said alot of Va Tech graduates work in the DC, Richmond, Baltimore, and charlotte area
This post was edited on 8/3/11 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 8/3/11 at 6:31 pm to oneusairman
Va Tech does have a lot going for them.
It's reasonably close to their potential roommates in the SEC East:
237 miles to Knoxville (4 hours)
265 miles to Columbia (4 1/2 hours)
315 miles to Lexington (5 1/2 hours)
367 miles to Athens (6 hours)
415 miles to Nashville (7 hours)
According to this LINK, 36% of Virginians are Hokie fans. The same polling company found that only 30% of Floridians are Gator fans (must be all the snowbirds and retirees).
Virginia has 2 million more residents than Missouri. I went to a game in Blacksburg and remember it feeling like the Texas A&M of the East Coast. I'm sure they think the Aggies are a cheap imitation of Va Tech.
And the Hokies would probably be a lot more receptive to joining the SEC than Florida State would be. Virginia Tech is definitely in the "Old South" part of Virginia -- doesn't feel anywhere near as Yankeefied as Northern Virginia.
It's reasonably close to their potential roommates in the SEC East:
237 miles to Knoxville (4 hours)
265 miles to Columbia (4 1/2 hours)
315 miles to Lexington (5 1/2 hours)
367 miles to Athens (6 hours)
415 miles to Nashville (7 hours)
According to this LINK, 36% of Virginians are Hokie fans. The same polling company found that only 30% of Floridians are Gator fans (must be all the snowbirds and retirees).
Virginia has 2 million more residents than Missouri. I went to a game in Blacksburg and remember it feeling like the Texas A&M of the East Coast. I'm sure they think the Aggies are a cheap imitation of Va Tech.
And the Hokies would probably be a lot more receptive to joining the SEC than Florida State would be. Virginia Tech is definitely in the "Old South" part of Virginia -- doesn't feel anywhere near as Yankeefied as Northern Virginia.
This post was edited on 8/3/11 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 8/3/11 at 6:38 pm to oneusairman
Virginia Tech has always been my preference as the team to add to the SEC East. Both Texas A&M and Virginia Tech are very close to the current SEC footprint and would seemlessly fit it. Both are VERY solid ag/engineering schools with great football followings, lucrative alumni bases, in highly appealing markets (Texas/Houston,etc for A&M and Virginia/Richmond/Tidewater/DC for Virginia Tech). Add a team to the West and one to the East therefore preserving the conference and adding a really nice divisional game for each team in both divisions.
A no brainer really. I'm confident we can talk A&M in to bolting. I'm less confident in prying Virginia Tech away. I think A&M bolts the Big 12 the moment a Va Tech or NC State joins the SEC.
A no brainer really. I'm confident we can talk A&M in to bolting. I'm less confident in prying Virginia Tech away. I think A&M bolts the Big 12 the moment a Va Tech or NC State joins the SEC.
Posted on 8/3/11 at 7:41 pm to bfniii
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if you think he's not a major, major factor, then you are naive
But it still comes down to the ADs, and there are some pretty big reasons why at least AU and UGA don't want them, and I bet a case could be made for UA and UT.
Geography, once again, is terrible. We have the ATL market locked up, and the only reason we would bring in new schools would be to expand our market base. You aren't thinking economically. Academics are irrelevant because this is a sports conference, not an academic conference. It all comes down to if the team can produce on the field, not the classroom. The only two rivalries Tech has in the SEC are AU and UGA, and neither of them would want them in because it would hurt recruiting.
They may have fit in back in the 50s, but not any more. Too many people there either don't care about football, or have ties to AU/UGA anyway. Football there just isn't taken as seriously as in the SEC, and Vandy is a prime example of why just being in the SEC a while doesn't necessarily make them a better program.
Those sanctions were rough, and it'll take a while to get over them. Scholly reductions hurt a whole lot for a school like that.
Economically, we don't want FSU in for the same reason, whih also applies to Clemson. Tapping into the VA or NC market would be huge, and is definitely what we need to aim for.
This post was edited on 8/3/11 at 7:44 pm
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