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Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:42 pm to 3down10
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:42 pm to 3down10
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What's behind it was government came in and disrupted the free marke
The government hasn’t got that involved yet, politics did. Wait until unions, and title 9 and osha get ramped up.
Oh and taxes. That will be fun.
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:47 pm to MtVernon
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Ok. So let's shut down College Football
Say you’re a child without saying you’re a child.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:48 pm to geauxtigs99
Tacking on an extra charge to tickets to pay players...I guess just call it an automatic gratuity and people wouldn't say anything.
This has gotten so out of hand. Players should have just had a % of all gross revenues in their athletic dept set aside in a trust fund that they would receive at graduation or when they left the school.
This has gotten so out of hand. Players should have just had a % of all gross revenues in their athletic dept set aside in a trust fund that they would receive at graduation or when they left the school.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:49 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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Say you’re a child without saying you’re a child.
Just name the Sonic, fat arse.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:51 pm to geauxtigs99
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The government hasn’t got that involved yet, politics did. Wait until unions, and title 9 and osha get ramped up.
Oh and taxes. That will be fun.
Well, they've interfered with the rules and ways of a private organization, so they are involved.
They just aren't balls deep yet.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:51 pm to geauxtigs99
When the car was invented horse buggy drivers thought it was the end of the world too.
There is more interest in college football now than ever before. With the playoff system, interest will continue to grow.
It may not look the way you want, but college football isn’t going to die.
There is more interest in college football now than ever before. With the playoff system, interest will continue to grow.
It may not look the way you want, but college football isn’t going to die.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:56 pm to MtVernon
Says the guy named “MtVernon”.
I’ve known two guys in my entire life named Vernon and man, they got all the ladies.
I’ve known two guys in my entire life named Vernon and man, they got all the ladies.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:58 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Individual rights are being trampled on
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I agree. Let me rephrase both our statements together. Individual rights are being trampled on, but no legal process involving individual rights in the US is going away. If rights are trampled on (as these were preemptively), the legal process for correction will not just go away.
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I agree. Let me rephrase both our statements together. Individual rights are being trampled on, but no legal process involving individual rights in the US is going away. If rights are trampled on (as these were preemptively), the legal process for correction will not just go away.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:01 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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When the car was invented horse buggy drivers thought it was the end of the world too. There is more interest in college football now than ever before. With the playoff system, interest will continue to grow. It may not look the way you want, but college football isn’t going to die.
No one is reinventing the wheel here sparky it’s entertainment. College football hit its peak of fandom in the mid 2000’s. We just might have a lot more ways to watch and interact with the game now. High school football participation in California, Midwest and northeast is down that has yet to be factored in as well. Betting is what might keep college football at its current rate for the next decade but the playoffs will not be this huge enlightened college football growth spurt. It’s all just banking on the current fandom, nothing they are doing is growing it especially at a 2x per loss rate.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:12 pm to geauxtigs99
quote:It already has. It’s finally dawning on fanbases as they watch unengaged players on sidelines and loafing on the field that the hired talent views your favorite school solely as a platform to promote their individual brand.
Which is what will led to the downfall of college athletics as we know it - a significant loss of identity with programs
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:18 pm to BevoBucks
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It already has. It’s finally dawning on fanbases as they watch unengaged players on sidelines and loafing on the field that the hired talent views your favorite school solely as a platform to promote their individual brand.
The past 3 years I've just not liked multiple Alabama players in general. You can tell when they are mercenary, especially when you compare them to great Alabama players we've had in the past like Ingram, Julio who still come to the sidelines many years later and just love Alabama football as much as the fans.
They have terrible attitudes and don't have the same heart. Maybe Butch Jones was ahead of his team and 5 star hearts might have some meaning one day.
People think interest is just going to switch off at once. Not how it works. It's a gradual reduction in time spent. I consume about 5% of the college football I did decades ago. I watched and paid more attention to Alabama when we went 3-8 than I did last year making the playoffs.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:28 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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For what? Letting the market decide how much players should be paid?
For our Texas brethren who have not been exposed to political ideology in the south you have to understand that the left is to blame for everything that hurts the feelings of many in the south. You also have to understand that southerners largely pretend to like the idea of a market economy but when the rubber hits the road and they have to foot the bill for said market economy someone other than the market has to be at fault.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:30 pm to Shadowboxer
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Man, that's a stupid take. This is flat out capitalism and if you are boring enough to bring politics into sports discussion, you probably need to understand politics better.
Damn I am going to have to rethink years of negative thoughts about Texans. 2 Texans posting how the market is at play and it has naught to do with politics. What a breath of fresh air....
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:32 pm to BevoBucks
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It’s finally dawning on fanbases as they watch unengaged players on sidelines and loafing on the field that the hired talent views your favorite school solely as a platform
This.
And rivalry games? I got news for you, joy boys.
The only rivalry is in the stands, you think the players give a shite? While you sit in the stands (or living room) crying because you just lost to your "rival"... your players are thinking about how they can portal that arse onto the other team.
If my team wasn't at the top I would probably already be checked out. I gotta friend who graduated from Miss State and he no longer gives one shite. He's out. One less fan for CFB.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:34 pm to geauxtigs99
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Contracts are they very least needed for this to have a capitalistic system.
No its not but an program who chooses to do so can require a contract, or at least their NIL body can....they can do just about anything they want to in a market economy. What they can't do is require others to follow suit. Currently if you want to remain competitive you will not have any sort of contract that limits player movement or places and limitations on payments based on performance or any criteria. That may change, it may not, but what we are seeing is the market doing what the market does.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:36 pm to 3down10
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They did stay the same. NIL is not done by the schools themselves.
Players are not getting big checks from Alabama, Texas or any other schools. Cam Newton did not get a single check from Auburn.
I didn't say anything about where the earnings came from. And whether it's the school, a booster, or a business cutting the check is completely irrelevant to the issue, because previously it was against the rules for any of those entities to do so.
All this restriction did was incentivize a black market for players. This limited demand to only those schools willing to break the rules, and thus reduced the prices those schools (excuse me, "boosters") had to pay.
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What you seem to struggle with is the fact that people and organizations are free to come to agreements for competitive reasons to make a product. These restrictions are not artificial, they are voluntary and done for a purpose.
Companies aren't allowed to collude to put downward pressure on employee earnings. Why should schools be allowed to do the same under the guise of the NCAA?
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What's next, the NFL/NBA/MLB are no longer allowed to have a salary cap? Why do they do it? Because they would have a shitty product if they didn't, and in the end they would all make less money if they were even able to stay in business.
You're almost there. A more appropriate "what's next?" would be "are they going to prevent the professional leagues from limiting player salary and NIL earnings to zero?" No such rule is needed; pro leagues would die if they followed the NCAA's previous model, because they don't have a pool of kids on campus to exploit for content.
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The fact people think capitalism means no rules at all just shows how far our education system has slipped.
Who's arguing against rules in capitalism? I'm in favor of a rule that prevents universities from restricting the earning potential of its players.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:36 pm to 3down10
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No, it's not.
It absolutely is. The forces of the free market led us here once the door was opened by leftist political pressure.
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What's behind it was government came in and disrupted the free market.
Did the new NIL law force schools to create these collectives and start charging more for tickets to pay players? No? Why is that? It couldn't possibly be that there is now a market for the services of college football players, and via market powers schools decided its fiscally beneficial to invest in a good athletic program via investing in athletes.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:38 pm to Wanruningchen
The days of getting decent seats for $40-$60 ended years ago, but this sort of thing will only escalate and price out the true diehard fans who may not have gone to the University but have supported it all their lives.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:41 pm to MtVernon
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If my team wasn't at the top I would probably already be checked out. I gotta friend who graduated from Miss State and he no longer gives one shite. He's out. One less fan for CFB.
I hear you, man (though my team is hardly at the top
). About the last thing keeping me engaged is my dad. It’s an interest he and I share, and I greatly value that. But he’s 82. My son likes baseball (as do I), but on the whole doesn’t give a shite about watching sports. When my dad dies, I’ll essentially have no reason anymore to care. I think I’ll turn it off for good then and just follow my alma mater’s team (D3).
The other thing that, at the moment, keeps me engaged is, believe it or not, the fricking Rant. This is such a crazy corner of the internet and I really enjoy it.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:41 pm to AwgustaDawg
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For our Texas brethren who have not been exposed to political ideology in the south you have to understand that the left is to blame for everything that hurts the feelings of many in the south.
Who are you talking to, Delaware?
Hell yes the Left is to blame for everything that hurts feelings, economy, education, race relations, marriages, morals, puppies, kittens, etc.
Shoot the "south" as you call it (excluding Texas I guess) was still voting Democrat long after us Texans had learned better. So y'all came around to our way of thinking. Just do something about Atlanta.
Good day.
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