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re: Tennessee “'talent fee'
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:07 am to MtVernon
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:07 am to MtVernon
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Yes. We are going to find out real quick why college football lasted for decades with scholarship athletes, and why this current mess will kill it. For all those who crowed loudly for paying players, here you go.
LOL
Nobody’s going to quit watching the sport
Maybe a few here and there but I mean you gotta fill up your life with SOMETHING
Just look at the recurring threads on here about the best deals to watch the games, you can’t NOT have your football
Now get in line and pony up
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:11 am to Radio One
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LOL
Nobody’s going to quit watching the sport
Some people just have zero foresight.
Are you going to keep watching when it boils down to about 5-6 dominant schools because they have more resources than all the others? Year after year.. the same 5-6 schools.
First off, some schools will bow out. Fans will bow out. This is not a recipe for survival.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:17 am to MtVernon
Do you pay money to watch television so you can see games that are being consumed by more and more *commercial* time? Do you go to games in person? Do you pay $8 or $10 for a *hot dog*?
Do you really think when UT is on a championship run you won’t pay attention because you’re upset about the “state of the sport?”
CFB is already RADICALLY different than it was just five years ago. Is the SEC Rant seeing decreased interest? Is the CFB subreddit no longer home to hundreds of thousands of members? Are ticket prices going *down*?
Do you really think when UT is on a championship run you won’t pay attention because you’re upset about the “state of the sport?”
CFB is already RADICALLY different than it was just five years ago. Is the SEC Rant seeing decreased interest? Is the CFB subreddit no longer home to hundreds of thousands of members? Are ticket prices going *down*?
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:21 am to Radio One
Couple of years ago they asked for donations for the goal posts they tore down after Bama.
They're poor.
They're poor.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:24 am to 3down10
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No, it's not. Government forced this, it is political.
The previous system was modernized slavery.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:26 am to MtVernon
Preferable to an idiot complex.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:28 am to Shadowboxer
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The previous system was modernized slavery.
Ridiculous.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:31 am to 3down10
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Government forced this
What is the government forcing by telling the schools they can’t artificially suppress the earning potential of players simply by calling them “student athletes.”
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:32 am to Gaius
Lol which poverty program do you pull for? Only a poverty program would argue that TN isn't one of the richest programs.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:34 am to Shadowboxer
The previous system was a four year apprenticeship to prepare for a high income career opportunity, with a college degree to fall back on if the player so chooses to take that part seriously.
Hardly modernized slavery. It was a pretty big deal just get get a single full ride offer for 99% of high school athletes.
Hardly modernized slavery. It was a pretty big deal just get get a single full ride offer for 99% of high school athletes.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am to Monaleesa
Just stating facts loser.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am to Shadowboxer
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The previous system was modernized slavery.
I don't have the energy for this.
A few years ago this subject dominated forums such as this one. I would say 50% supported, and 50% knew it was a bad idea.
You know who you are, and if you supported this, thanks a lot.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:35 am to Wanruningchen
Great way to raise ticket prices without any transparency of where the money actually goes.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:36 am to Wanruningchen
In unrelated news, catalytic converter thefts in Tennessee expected to rise by 10%.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:48 am to Dawgfanman
There is a solution, but it will never happen.
A school "could" offer a scholarship without additional pay, without revenue sharing, without NIL enticements, without anything other than you get an education and you get to play in front of people who received that same education or for fans that cheer for that school. Each player could go get NIL money the way it was designed, wherever they wanted, and without limitations.. and each player would have the right to not sign that scholarship.. to go play for a different school/team, and each player could leave anytime they wanted.
Now you wouldn't get the best players in the country.. but if a whole conference did it, it could go back to the way it was.. and honestly, that sounds pretty great.. Of course, then boosters would start paying players, blah blah blah.. and the cycle would just repeat.. So it would never work, but it is possible in a bubble.
Sign me up for that.
A school "could" offer a scholarship without additional pay, without revenue sharing, without NIL enticements, without anything other than you get an education and you get to play in front of people who received that same education or for fans that cheer for that school. Each player could go get NIL money the way it was designed, wherever they wanted, and without limitations.. and each player would have the right to not sign that scholarship.. to go play for a different school/team, and each player could leave anytime they wanted.
Now you wouldn't get the best players in the country.. but if a whole conference did it, it could go back to the way it was.. and honestly, that sounds pretty great.. Of course, then boosters would start paying players, blah blah blah.. and the cycle would just repeat.. So it would never work, but it is possible in a bubble.
Sign me up for that.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:55 am to MAROON
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who would propose pay for NIL?
The large majority of fans in the seats and certainly the ones watching from home, aren’t in the position to benefit from a player’s NIL. Unless you can place a value on the good feeling you get from having a fine team to cheer for in College sports.
Since NIL isn’t supposed to be tied to a player’s actual performance on the field, court, etc., Business owners that benefit from a player’s endorsement could be the ones to pay. The value of a teams 30th best recruit to use his own NIL would greatly enable the business owner to enhance sales. Exponentially.
The exotic car dealer that gave a Lambo to Bond is probably killing it based on that endorsement, with or without another booster actually funding the lease.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:56 am to Shadowboxer
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The previous system was modernized slavery.
The fact it is completely voluntary and something millions of people wish they could have gotten makes you sound pretty stupid right now.
I'd love to have me some of that slavery.
Of course, if you want to talk about real slavery, that's every American since 1913.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:59 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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What is the government forcing by telling the schools they can’t artificially suppress the earning potential of players simply by calling them “student athletes.”
Nobody artificially suppresses anything. The idea that organizations and such aren't allowed to come to agreements in order to create a product witht he goal of somewhat equal competition between them is the opposite of capitalism.
If it was such a bad deal, why does everyone want to do it? Why didn't we see people paying for their own training and such before heading to the NFL?
Because they don't have millions of dollars to pay for the staff, facilities and everything else. All of which you ignorantly dismiss as valueless.
In short, this is more about your own ignorance.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:01 pm to MtVernon
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Man this is going to be the end of the sport we all love.
It's pretty much already dead, it's just some of us don't know it yet.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 12:07 pm to BigBro
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There is a solution, but it will never happen.
A school "could" offer a scholarship without additional pay, without revenue sharing, without NIL enticements, without anything other than you get an education and you get to play in front of people who received that same education or for fans that cheer for that school. Each player could go get NIL money the way it was designed, wherever they wanted, and without limitations.. and each player would have the right to not sign that scholarship.. to go play for a different school/team, and each player could leave anytime they wanted.
Now you wouldn't get the best players in the country.. but if a whole conference did it, it could go back to the way it was.. and honestly, that sounds pretty great.. Of course, then boosters would start paying players, blah blah blah.. and the cycle would just repeat.. So it would never work, but it is possible in a bubble.
There's a much simpler solution than that.
1. Pay players a salary, sign them to contracts
2. Institute an amateur draft
3. Opt-outs for the draft must sit a year
4. Transfers must sit a year other than hardships
Suddenly NIL becomes what it was intended for.
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