re: Temporary Restraining Order Against NCAA Denied - A crushing blow for the Vols!

I still can't believe that anal wart didn't realize he was talking about the SECCG.

"Yuh HUH, we have TOO played in Atlanta!"

Only an Ole Piss fan could be so dumb.

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Tennessee deserves to own Texas, as we saved your asses from the hordes.

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TN group there actually lost the Alamo while dying in their attempt to defend it but not sure how that relates to saving.

Some of you Ut fans need to learn history like Knoxville was not part of the State of Franklin.

Notice how Smokey and salty started posting again back to back and how eerily similar their posts are?

I will say…..it’s possible they aren’t alters. It very well could be different people but have similar genetics because of the rampant eastern Tennessee inbreeding.

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Explain how the recruiting rules are unlawful

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Well, in this case, for one, they're trying to retroactively apply amended bylaws as it pertains to NIL to prior actions that predated those amendments. They're also attempting to dictate what a player and a private party can do.

Here's the timeline.

May 2021 - Nico offered a scholarship

June 2021 - NIL becomes legal with vague guidelines

August 2021 - California, Nico's home state, makes NIL legal for high school athletes

November 2021 - Nico takes an official visit to Tennessee

January 2022 - A private entity, Spyre, flew Nico to Knoxville

March 2022 - Nico takes his second official visit to Tennessee

March 2022 - Nico signs NIL deal

March 2022 - Nico signs with Tennessee

May 2022 - NCAA amends NIL policy to specifically state NIL cannot be involved in recruiting and that collectives can only be used for athletes already enrolled in the university

As a matter of law, Nico lawfully received benefits while still in high school. It was legal in California where he was a resident. The NCAA, as a matter of law, cannot retroactively apply policy to prior actions and punish violations. The bylaws in place when the actions actually occurred were vague, conflicting, and ambiguous. That's a problem for them.

Then you have the anti-trust issues the Court raised here and prior courts have raised.

Looking at all the facts and the legal issues, this appears to be a losing battle for the NCAA. They had the opportunity to get ahead of this years ago but chose to ignorantly fight it to preserve the "sanctity of amateurism" while profiting billions on the backs of these amateurs

I think Tennessee fans are as obnoxious as they come, but wanting them to burn for the lulz on this message board isn't going to win the NCAA's case.

I feel like I read somewhere the NCAA has now sent similar letters of inquiry to Ole Miss, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. over NIL issues, so it wouldn't surprise me to see several other states join this lawsuit and we might have a lot of fans on here change their stances on the whole thing.

Using simple deductive reasoning, when you see players all over the country enter the portal, sign with new teams, and have NIL deals in place within a matter of a day or two, what exactly do you think is going on? Every program in the country is doing the same thing. They're having private parties offer players high dollar deals to sign with college football programs

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What happens if the ncaa disbands?

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Major conferences band together and create another governing body and set of rules.

All smaller schools and subdivions essentially do the same at their level or get screwed

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They're also attempting to dictate what a player and a private party can do.

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This isn't true though. They're dictating how member institutions can interact with people and organizations who engage in these types of acts.

The NCAA can't stop a booster from handing a recruit $1M in cash to a recruit. They can prevent the recruit from being eligible for participation in NCAA-sanctioned sports & events.

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There is a way to enforce rules in the NCAA, but some rules are just bad rules and, once those issues are brought to a Court, whether teams are voluntary members is irrelevant

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NCAA rules and laws are two completely separate things. There is no law that limits football teams to 85 scholarships. This is a NCAA rule that all schools agree to abide by as a condition of membership in the NCAA. There are no laws that limit recruiting visits, dead times, payments to recruits, and a hundred other things related to recruiting. These are NCAA rules that members agree to abide by as a condition of membership.

It is amazing to me how many people on here seem unable to grasp the concept that NIL and recruiting are two separate issues.

NIL is not why Tennessee is going to get hammered. It is because they broke recruiting rules; once again; that they agreed to follow as a member of the NCAA.

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If rules (bylaws) are unlawful, there's no way to enforce them. In this case, the NCAA has trying to overextend their hand with NIL enforcement and the Courts are reigning them back in.

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The NCAA has ONE rule in their bylaws limiting NIL. One single rule.

"22.01.2 Offers and Inducements. Name, image and likeness activities may not be used as an inducement for an individual to enroll or remain enrolled at a specific institution."

That's the ONLY thing the NCAA attempts to prevent regarding NIL. YOu can't have NIL deals paying a player to attend a particular college, or "inducing" them to do so.

If the courts take that away it isn't "reigning them back in". It erases the only rule that the NCAA has restricting NIL and makes it so you can have NIL deals that force players to attend a particular college to get paid and require them to pay back the NIL deal if they later decide to transfer. There will be NO NIL rules from the NCAA if Tennessee succeeds with their suit.

That may be what happens, but let's not try to recharacterize what's happening. It's not he courts eliminating a few rules out of many in order to keep the NCAA from going too far in their regulation. It's eliminating all regulation of NIL that the NCAA has and making it completely okay to have any kind of NIL contract.

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May 2021 - Nico offered a scholarship

June 2021 - NIL becomes legal with vague guidelines

August 2021 - California, Nico's home state, makes NIL legal for high school athletes

November 2021 - Nico takes an official visit to Tennessee

January 2022 - A private entity, Spyre, flew Nico to Knoxville

March 2022 - Nico takes his second official visit to Tennessee

March 2022 - Nico signs NIL deal

March 2022 - Nico signs with Tennessee

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The flight, paid for by Spyre, was a recruiting violation. Schools nor boosters can pay for travel for recruits’ unofficial visits. Or hell, any travel related to them being a recruit. I mean, schools have gotten in trouble for giving recruits local rides in a car. My local high school had to vacate a win this year because the local Buffalo Wild Wings gave gift cards to the players of the game after a game. You can’t give recruits things. And if you aren’t a recruits direct family member, chances are giving them something will be seen as impermissible benefits.

Has nothing to do with NIL. Nico had not signed an NIL deal nor had he signed with Tennessee. He was clearly still a recruit. Impermissible benefits were given to him, a recruit, by paying for him to make an unofficial visit to Knoxville. By someone who was trying to steer him to Tennessee. It is a clear recruiting violation. Your timeline proves it. Because Tennessee is a repeat offender, I think they will get hammered. And if past precedent holds, Nico will be ineligible.