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re: Teddy Lehman Telling Truth about SEC

Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:12 am to
Posted by Soonerboomer1
Arizona via Hollywood, CA
Member since Jun 2024
121 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:12 am to
Never has Texsa and yet the SEC writers are saying 11-1 why? LMAO.
Posted by Soonerboomer1
Arizona via Hollywood, CA
Member since Jun 2024
121 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:14 am to
Lehman was using the BLue Chip ratio:

UGA
Bama
A&M
OU

So only these schools have more talent. Based on that.
Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
3036 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:14 am to
Yeah, you guys wanted Texas and OU. This is who they are. OU is a trashier LSU. Texas is a plague of locusts.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16495 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Never has Texsa and yet the SEC writers are saying 11-1 why? LMAO.


Do everyone a favor and copy the person's quotes. Are you asking me why the writers have the shorthorns at 11-1?
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Yeah, that's even more insane.
No, check OUr trophy case, and just about every publication. Only Alabama is a blueblood in the old SEC, now it has 3.

Georgia is still FAR from one. Not with only 4 national titles lol:
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:22 am to
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As someone who grew up in the SWC, I’ve been there. The SEC is just different. It’s not even really about the best teams in the conference, even the bad teams are nationally competitive and you get no breaks. OU and Texas will find out soon enough, it’s like playing a bowl game matchup every week. The margin for victory is so damn small in this conference. It’s incredible really
Yet the same school wins most of the conference trophies, not arkansas. Maybe you just suck.
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Lehman was using the BLue Chip ratio:

UGA
Bama
A&M
OU

So only these schools have more talent. Based on that.
Is Oklahoma ready for the SEC, they say
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:33 am to
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. This is the current ranking. It justifies Lehman's rant


But it doesn't really.

The issue for OU in the Big 12 so far for Venables hasn't been talent. The only team with a similar or higher level of talent in the Big 12 was Texas. TCU was around 19th in the talent composite. The next team was Texas Tech at 40th.

Despite that and despite beating Texas last year, OU lost to teams outside of the top 40 in total talent... three times last year.

OU has had a huge talent edge in the Big 12... and has been pretty meh despite that fact.

That doesn't bode well for going into a more talent rich conference. Quite the opposite. It shows that Venables has thus far been proven to be a coach who often has his team performing poorly against less talented teams... and those teams who have less talent than OU that he'll face going forward are going to be MUCH more talented overall.

That bears out the expectations of OU doing poorly this year.

In the SEC everyone other than Vandy is ahead of Texas Tech in talent (top 40). Vandy is 58th.
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:57 am to
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In the SEC everyone other than Vandy is ahead of Texas Tech in talent (top 40). Vandy is 58th.
and Kirby lost to Vandy

And for years was the Big Game loser. Arkansas lost to north texas.

Continue pretending to be jesus and knowing what coaches can do....especially in the beginning of year 3.

OU will keep playing and trying to win trophies. Just like georgia did for 40 years
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:31 pm to
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and Kirby lost to Vandy

And for years was the Big Game loser. Arkansas lost to north texas.


Kirby lost to Vandy in his first year as a head coach by 1 point.
He also lost to GT (a 9-win team) by 1 point.
He also lost to Tennessee by 3 points on a hail mary.

Kirby did in fact need to learn how to win close games.

He did so. Since his first year he's made the playoff 3 times, going 5-1 in those playoff games, only losing to the #1 team in overtime (that was in his second year).

He's only lost one game after his first year to an unranked team, that being a 3 point loss to SEC in double OT on a missed short FG by a kicker good enough to play in the NFL.

Besides that the other 10 losses in the last 7 seasons were to:

#1 team in the final rankings (three times)
#2 (twice)
#5
#6
#9
#10
#13

Before you say "oh, see, he lost big games!", he's got wins against teams who finished in the following final rankings:

#2 (twice)
#3 (twice)
#4
#6 (three times)
#7
#8 (twice)
#9
#10
#11
#12 (twice)
#13
#14
#15
#16
#17
#18
#19
#20
#21
#23

#1 is missing because when you beat the #1 team they rarely end up #1 afterwards. It's kind of interesting listing them out how Smart is only missing #1, #5, #22, #24 and #25 to have wins over every single spot in the top 25 based on the end of year results. But yeah, he never won any big games right? Because for it to be a big game, UGA would have to lose... am I right?

In case you don't want to add it up, that means Smart is 26-10 against ranked teams in the last 7 seasons.
This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Kirby lost to Vandy in his first year as a head coach by 1 point.
He also lost to GT (a 9-win team) by 1 point.
He also lost to Tennessee by 3 points on a hail mary.


VAST talent difference, but lost. It happens. And still is Saban's whipping boy (1-5 lol).

I don't know whether Venables will win titles, unlike you I'm not jesus. I don't know the future.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8878 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:51 pm to
Feel like Q-Ball in the video is not giving enough respect to LSU. They've had two Heisman winners, 1 national title, 1 SEC title, and other SECCG berth in the last 5 seasons.

He's completely correct that OU is coming in and competing with Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and Texas for the top.
Posted by theballguy
Between DC and Colorado
Member since Oct 2011
18828 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Soonerboomer1



Should you be starting threads?
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Feel like Q-Ball in the video is not giving enough respect to LSU.
He was talking about programs under CURRENT coaching staffs.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24745 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:58 pm to
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He was talking about programs under CURRENT coaching staffs.


Current coaching staff of UGA/LSU/UT/OM/Bama are all considerably more accomplished than Oklahoma’s
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8878 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

He was talking about programs under CURRENT coaching staffs.



Brian Kelly is a more proven head coach than Brent Venables to be frank...
Posted by Sarcastro
Member since May 2012
1614 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 5:04 pm to
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You did cherry-pick 1 year of recruiting.That is not how you do this. Lehman was talking blue chip ratio which consists of all players (minus current NIL transfers). This is the current ranking. It justifies Lehman's rant.


UGA
Bama
A&M
OU


on3 has lsu's average recruiting ranking for the last four classes at 6.75. texas is 7 and ou is 7.5. they have all basically recruited at the same level
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Current coaching staff of UGA/LSU/UT/OM/Bama are all considerably more accomplished than Oklahoma’s
But who has the jewelry at their current schools? Only Georgia.

LEARN to listen better hillbillies.
Posted by NewBOSSofSEC
Member since Jul 2024
251 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 5:08 pm to
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Brian Kelly is a more proven head coach than Brent Venables to be frank...
Any championship rings at LSU? No. That's the point.
Posted by Sarcastro
Member since May 2012
1614 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Brian Kelly is a more proven head coach than Brent Venables to be frank...


vegetables has been a head coach for two seasons. kelly has won at least 10 games his last seven seasons. i don't like lsu as a playoff team based on who they lost and who they are bringing back, but you also have to consider kelly's track record that he always wins. vegetables doesn't have a track record yet
This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 5:09 pm
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