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re: T&P To Our People In Texas

Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:49 pm to
Barely a cat 1. Grow a pair
Posted by Suzerain
Brownwood, TX.
Member since Oct 2020
247 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:39 pm to
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I still remember when it got down to 20 degrees in Texas a couple years ago


Obviously you don't. It might have been 20 on the coast but it was below zero where I live, not including the wind chill.

And quite a few folks froze to death as well, so yeah, let's make fun of it. Life must really suck for you..
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
4184 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:21 am to
Wind turbines supply 29% of ERCOT power. Shut that down and there is a helluva natural gas demand surge all at one time.

This caused the PRICE of natural gas and the electricity generated from it to skyrocket.

Don't blame the fossil fuel energy for the green agenda screw ups. I was in west Texas monitoring natural gas and gas was available for residences with voluntary industrial curtailments.
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
1189 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:08 am to
In west Houston we are having heavy rain and wind at about 40 MPH , supposed to get up to 75 MPH later . We have had since yesterday morning 7 " of rain so ya'll stay safe. See you on the other side.
Posted by Buster83
Somewhere in Texas usually
Member since Aug 2021
5388 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:14 am to
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I still remember when it got down to 20 degrees in Texas a couple years ago and the whole state fell apart because people embezzled so much money from all the utilities.


Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2146 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:40 am to
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Wind turbines supply 29% of ERCOT power. Shut that down and there is a helluva natural gas demand surge all at one time.

This caused the PRICE of natural gas and the electricity generated from it to skyrocket.

Don't blame the fossil fuel energy for the green agenda screw ups. I was in west Texas monitoring natural gas and gas was available for residences with voluntary industrial curtailments.


I don't know . . . . ERCOT is not a well functioning organization and our grid is still a big problem. Greg Abbott's talking points don't solve a problem that needs attention given the ongoing economic growth of the state.

There were multiple post mortems and the basic conclusion was:

1) Peak Demand was drastically understated in planning

2) Poor power generation weatherization caused breakdowns under conditions that weren't that bad by any national standard

3) Nat Gas did not step up to fill the void. Nat gas distribution was being curtailed days in advance of the blackouts and really failed when it was most needed.

Per the Longhorn Engineering Department analysis:

quote:

Failures included direct freezing of natural gas equipment and failing to inform their electric utilities of critical electrically-driven components. Dry gas production dropped 85% from early February to February 16, with up to 2/3 of processing plants in the Permian Basin experiencing an outage.5


None of these alone would cripple the system, but they all happened at once and it resulted in loss of human life and economic damage. If we keep digesting hundreds of thousands of new citizens and more crypto mining data centers, we have to get the grid fixed.

Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4813 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:25 am to
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The problem with the Texas freeze was due to Biden federal natural gas regulations and forced compliance on wind and solar.

We have infrastructure that works just fine for decades. Biden made us change it according to his plan and his plan doesn’t work when the whole state freezes.

In short, as with most things, it was working fine until the government improved it.


I hate Biden plenty but he was in office less than a month when that February 2021 freeze occurred. You think he screwed up the grid for the entire state of Texas in less than 30 days? You can blame the democrats as a whole but it isn't like some administrative move with the Biden administration would have much effect that quick.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 11:28 am
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