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re: Steven Godfrey rips Starkville apart

Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:38 pm to
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Aside from visiting a dead author's house, there's not one damn thing that you can do in Oxford that you can't do in Starkville. Not one damn thing.


You seem like the kind of guy who spends his friday nights drinking cold Bud Lights out of glass bottles at a neon-light infested bar that blasts Kenny Chesney music.

Amirite? If so, then no, neither town would seem that much different to you. Ricks = the Library and vice versa.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:39 pm to
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I never said it wasnt business savvy. The fact that it is a good business move is my point. If marketing obsession of another school is a "smart business move" then your fans are obsessed people.


Ahh the whole State is obsessed with Mississippi deal. As if it doesn't work both ways.

I think it is a small part of both fan bases that blows this whole thing out of proportion.

Honestly, what is there to be obsessed over? Both Athletic programs are bottom of the barrell in the SEC. Academics wise, both Schools have a few programs that are solid, as a whole, both lag behind in the SEC. Could go on and on.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Outside of the Oxford square/UM campus and the Cotton District/MSU campus, Oxford and Starkville are exactly the same.

No no no no. I will be the first to tell you that Oxford, in my opinion, is not a "nice" town. I think its a great college town and its nicer than Starkville, but its not "nice". Im from Madison and will always compare the unmanicured parts of Oxford to areas you would never find in Madison. Hell they dont even have a private school. Even though Oxford has places that aren't exactly nice, they do not compare to the bad parts of Starkville. There are literally cow pastures everywhere. This is not a stereotype. Starkville has a Ghetto and Im not exaggerating. You don't know what you re talking about.
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:41 pm to
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There are literally cow pastures everywhere.


Is this serious? Maybe I didn't venture out enough my 4 years there, but I never once saw a cow in Starkville. West Point yes, Starkville no. I'm not saying there isn't a cow pasture in Starkville, I'm saying I've never seen it.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:42 pm to
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Ahh the whole State is obsessed with Mississippi deal. As if it doesn't work both ways.


It doesn't.

Find me a marketing campaign put on by Ole Miss which relied on the "obsession" of our fan base with your school and the perceived differences between the two to be successful?

Basically, what is the Ole Miss equivalent of "Welcome to our State?" What is the Ole Miss equivalent of "The People's University?"
Posted by BillF
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:42 pm to
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The guy's a terrible writer. I used to think Chris Warner was windy and overly verbose until I read this.




Redundancy.


No, it's possible to have degrees of verbosity. Maybe I should have just referred to his writing as pedantic.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:42 pm to
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There are literally cow pastures everywhere


What? You mean when you leave town? Yeah there are cow pastures, cotton fields, wineries, and other types all around the city.
This post was edited on 7/14/11 at 3:44 pm
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:42 pm to
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No, it's possible to have degrees of verbosity. Maybe I should have just referred to his writing as pedantic.


Pedantic it is.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:42 pm to
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Honestly, what is there to be obsessed over? Both Athletic programs are bottom of the barrell in the SEC. Academics wise, both Schools have a few programs that are solid, as a whole, both lag behind in the SEC. Could go on and on.

Because ours are a little better. Not enough that you cant argue like say LSU vs OM, but just enough that you can convince yourselves that with an x factor/wildcard event, you could be the flagship.

But back on point. Your posters are admitting that its smart to market obsession. How the hell are you going to say that your fan base isnt obsessed with OM when your marketing plans are all aimed at OM. All your message boards talk more about OM than our own message boards.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:43 pm to
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Starkville has a Ghetto and Im not exaggerating.



yeah you are.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:43 pm to
I frickin' hate writers that take what can be said clearly and succintly in a dozen words and stretch that shite out to two thousand.
Posted by DCRebel
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:43 pm to
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Starkville has a Ghetto and Im not exaggerating.





yeah you are.


Oxford has housing projects.
Posted by TravelSmartly
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:43 pm to
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You threw Johnny Cash in jail. You think “The Client” is a suitable rebuttal to our celebration of “The Sound and the Fury.” Your culinary mystique is a tangled web of Applebee’s peppered with so many Sonics that I have to assume there’s a city-wide mandate on Cherry Limeade accessibility, lest the native palate go unsatisfied. Your Balkan-esque landscape is so devoid of charm that it even depresses the frayed ball-cap, F-150 lift kit crowd from other crappy ag schools visiting for football games. Compared to you, Clemson is a clear spring morning in Barcelona. frickin boom


Not really. This statement is full of holes.

1. Grisham lives in Oxford.
2. Faulkner lived in Oxford, and served as town drunk until literature figs decided he was great and Oxford embraced him.
3. Starkville threw Johnny Cash in jail, and Oxford tried to kill James Meridith. Any Ole Miss alum will tell you it was the townies not the students who rioted.
4. Both places have chains and red neck douche bags with lift kits and frayed hats.
5. I doubt this guy has been to the Balkans, it looks nothing like Starkville. If Balkan-esque is meant as an insult, it is a terrible one because there are parts of the Balkans that are beautiful. The Barcelona reference is just stupid.

This Godfrey guy really is a shitty writer.
Posted by spacecataz
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:44 pm to
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There are literally cow pastures everywhere. This is not a stereotype. Starkville has a Ghetto and Im not exaggerating. You don't know what you re talking about.


What? If you want to see cow pastures drive west out of Oxford toward Batesville. And you're saying Oxford doesn't have a ghetto? Hell, you have a gigantic trailer park planted right in the middle of town for starters.
This post was edited on 7/14/11 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:45 pm to
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I'm not saying there isn't a cow pasture in Starkville, I'm saying I've never seen it.

me either. and the ghetto.

I haven't been back to Starkville in awhile though.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:45 pm to
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Starkville has a Ghetto and Im not exaggerating


There is no ghetto in Starkville

That would imply that there are enough people in Starkvegas to have a ghetto
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:46 pm to
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Your posters are admitting that its smart to market obsession


No i didn't. That is more for students who are not yet fans of the university. So no, they aren't obsessed with Ole Miss.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:46 pm to
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DCRebel
Steven Godfrey rips Starkville apart

Part TWO of TWO


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Yet, I’ll not stand by and let you brazenly spit into the wind that sweeps together Bill Faulkner, Ventress Hall, Blue Mountain, Willie Morris, R.L. Burnside, The Gin, The Hoka, Ajax, The Grocery, The Square, Sardis Lake, Taylor, South Lamar Boulevard, and the very fabric, the actual natural geography of our fair home (WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL, ROLLING HILLS. DEAL WITH IT).




Eudora Welty too I think? Great author.
Posted by DCRebel
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:46 pm to
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I frickin' hate words.


FIFY

Isn't expounding upon something what writers do? I mean, I could tell you, using only a few sentences, the plot of Romeo and Juliet (Two people of rival families are in love. The difficulties they face as lovers drive them, in order to spite their families, to kill themselves. In doing so, they end the fued.), but that doesn't at all make me a good writer.

"I think Starkville isn't a cool place" doesn't really work as a newspaper column.

Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 7/14/11 at 3:46 pm to
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All your message boards talk more about OM than our own message boards.


Come on, compare the six pack to nafoom, it's going to be about the same.

Oh, and if anything, State is slightly > Mississippi.

Also, remember the offseason banner put out by Ole Miss, I believe it went:

Win the offseason
Win the West
Win in Atlanta

And in big, bold, maroon letters it said

Own the State
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