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re: Stetson Bennett

Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:39 pm to
Stats are useful in context. But by your flawed logic any QB whose stats went up one year after the next improved and any QB whose stats went down got worse.

But that's ... very, very dumb.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Stats are useful in context


What is the context for Stetson?

You may have a point. I don't think you have made it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

But by your flawed logic any QB whose stats went up one year after the next improved and any QB whose stats went down got worse.


Are you saying misleading context proves Bennett didn’t improve from 2020 to 2021?

Ok, let’s see you explain this one.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

What is the context for Stetson?

You may have a point. I don't think you have made it.



I have made it many times. The talent accrued at UGA the four years prior by your staff is incredible and you could throw many QBs back there who'd have similar performances.

Most people see this, which is why he's ranked middle of the pack. Georgia fans are the only ones who seem not to understand. Worse, they seem unsatisfied with what they have and feel a weird need to pretend they've got one of the top qbs in the conference.

Not sure what else to tell you. Hope you find peace with winning a title with a good QB. Personally I'd be pretty happy and not screaming about how disrespected my QB was.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Are you saying misleading context proves Bennett didn’t improve from 2020 to 2021?


Exactly the opposite. I'm saying believing [stats = how good a QB is] is nonsensical and that context matters.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

The talent accrued at UGA the four years prior by your staff is incredible and you could throw many QBs back there who'd have similar performances.


You had no clue who was around manziel, so we have recent precedent you spewing BS.

If you would look at who actually played around Bennett, which includes multiple 3 star freshman and 5th round picks, you will see the flaws of your Point.


Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:59 pm to
Man I'm sorry you can't handle it. There's a reason only Georgia fans believe what you believe.

Hopefully he throws for 5,000 yards, 50 TDs and has a 200 passer rating so y'all can finally feel secure.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Exactly the opposite. I'm saying believing [stats = how good a QB is] is nonsensical and that context matters.


The stats show improved a lot. Are they wrong or right?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:00 pm to
I did appreciate the constant "NFL draft has NOTHING to do with how good someone is in college" immediate transitioning to "manziel had THREE first round picks!" with absolutely no self awareness about it.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

The stats show improved a lot. Are they wrong or right


And some QBs stats went down. And that doesn't mean they got worse.

Stats on their own are meaningless
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

did appreciate the constant "NFL draft has NOTHING to do with how good someone is in college" immediate transitioning to "manziel had THREE first round picks!" with absolutely no self awareness about it.


The context of those points went over your head.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16340 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:02 pm to
bullshite, UF has paraded out some limp armed qbs dating back to Spurrier. Tebow was a disaster as an nfl qb with hideous mechanics. Grossman had a shitty career.

Stetson's problem is is size, his arm and mechanics are great. He is a better qb than Fromm.

People are star struck by star ratings.

Thank god Kirby plays players based on actual ability. There is a reason we called him back.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:03 pm to
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The context of those points went over your head.


No, I fully noted your inconsistency.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

bullshite, UF has paraded out some limp armed qbs dating back to Spurrier. Tebow was a disaster as an nfl qb with hideous mechanics. Grossman had a shitty career.


You're right. Florida had some QBs who were in no way suited for the NFL.

They even had some middling QBs put up great stats.

That's context. Spurrier surrounded ok game managers with great talent and they accrued world class QB stats.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
3193 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I have made it many times. The talent accrued at UGA the four years prior by your staff is incredible and you could throw many QBs back there who'd have similar performances.

Most people see this, which is why he's ranked middle of the pack. Georgia fans are the only ones who seem not to understand. Worse, they seem unsatisfied with what they have and feel a weird need to pretend they've got one of the top qbs in the conference.

Not sure what else to tell you. Hope you find peace with winning a title with a good QB. Personally I'd be pretty happy and not screaming about how disrespected my QB was


You nailed it, thanks.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16340 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:11 pm to
Nailed Bryce Young is what he nailed....
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

And some QBs stats went down. And that doesn't mean they got worse.


It would indicate their performance did get worse.

Again, if you think stats don’t mean shite, then you better have something else that better details a player’s performance.

You have nothing.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

No, I fully noted your inconsistency.


You clearly still don’t understand the context. Different points made for different subjects.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40564 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:48 pm to
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Man I'm sorry you can't handle it.


I asked you to prove your context point by looking at specific players in support of Bennett, but you didn’t, and probably can’t.

Since you couldn’t handle that simple task, Let me walk you through this as if you were a child:

The uga WR corp was decimated by injuries for 2021. 2 of our top wrs were 3 star freshman.

Neither running back in our duo was a nick chubb quality player. Most talented one got hurt.

The OL had a RG playing LT, backups, and even freshman playing.

quote:

There's a reason only Georgia fans believe what you believe.


Stats prove far more than you can fathom
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14986 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

It would indicate their performance did get worse.


Nobody who watched a minute of football would believe this. It is an insane opinion.
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